Who else opposes race-based affirmative action?

goingmeta
Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:02:11 +0000

You are saying that affirmative action really doesn’t have much of an impact:

Those quotes suggests nothing of the sort. Are you blind? Illiterate?



You assume things; I said “the GCs have verified this,” and then you start mentioning how this relates to me making things up because guidance counselors don’t release that info. You’ve expanded on “verification” while ignoring the issue of race-based affirmative action. You constantly try to debate the definitions of words I use to make how I get the information as “dubious.”

Let’s sum up: you posted something I considered suspect, and I decided to call you out on it. I haven’t been ignoring the topic at hand, I just felt that I needed to know how you know certain things. When you’re attempting to make a point, contrary to what you might believe, you should be expecting that people question your assertions.



Where is your proof? How significant is this? Isn’t this a bit off topic?

Where is my proof for a question? My point is that people get admitted into universities despite a strong academic record all the time. I know a few people who ended up going to Berkeley because they were athletes. Do I consider that fair? Not really. But I’m also not sitting on a forum crying about it. You seem to think affirmative action is the only thing that “cheats” you out of a world-class education.



Okay, name the benefits.

Seriously? The part where I said “different races have something, namely a different point of view, to offer in such an institution” didn’t tip you off?



The website I provided, despite its conservative background isn’t all biased.

LOL.



Why should race have any preference in academics? How does affirmative action help? How is it necessary? You haven’t answered any of these questions.

How does affirmative action help? Uhh, it helps minorities get into universities maybe? Every government instituted policy isn’t there to benefit you. We denied the rights of blacks for something like 200 years and a large portion of them are still living in generational poverty. You don’t believe that warrants any sort of crutch in our university system?



Yes, obviously, that’s not how things work. You only proved affirmative action’s existence. How is that fair when they receive federal funding, and are known to be the best in the world? Please don’t go into how reliable those rankings are.

NOBODY is saying it has to be fair for you!



Simply saying that a private college is free to do whatever it wants isn’t a good justification at all

No, actually it’s the only justification that needs to be brought up. For that reason, this thread should have locked/ deleted a long time ago. You’re ignoring facts and just whining at this point.