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How much does being a URM help for transfer admissions?

eastafrobeautyeastafrobeauty Registered User Posts: 2,430 Senior Member
edited July 2010 in Transfer Students
I was just wondering what the answer to this question might be. Does affirmative action(AA) help more at private schools than public schools?

Does AA work just as effectively as freshman admissions? How much can AA help?

I would highly appreciate some responses. Thanks! :)

I'm low income + URM so would this help me out?
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Replies to: How much does being a URM help for transfer admissions?

  • octoberbayoctoberbay Registered User Posts: 131 Junior Member
    It depends on the school you're applying to. If the college has an extremely low percentage of URM's, then it could help you out, but don't bank on that being your ticket in. You still need to be qualified.
  • hahahahahhahahahah Registered User Posts: 1,051 Senior Member
    Depends on the school but I think it will give you an edge, if only slightly.
  • college_ruledcollege_ruled Registered User Posts: 1,243 Senior Member
    I don't think anybody really knows how much AA helps in transfer admissions, because there isn't data.

    Low income could definitely hurt you, because it's very common for schools not to have enough money for transfer financial aid. (Either colleges will accept a low income student and not give her enough money to attend, or they won't accept someone with great financial need period).

    Public universities (barring UVA and UNC) do not meet full need of out of state freshmen, so they probably are a poor choice for an out of state transfer.
  • entomomentomom Registered User Posts: 23,662 Senior Member
    Many public schools cannot (by law) use AA (eg. MI, CA, FL).

    I've never seen any data on transfers, and it would be difficult to interpret given the much lower numbers involved in transfer admissions.

    I agree with c_r that other than UVA and UNC, most publics are not good choices for OOS transfers due to high COA and minimal, if any, FA.
  • eastafrobeautyeastafrobeauty Registered User Posts: 2,430 Senior Member
    ^ That's true! But luckily I don't plan on applying too those.

    Some of the schools I was thinking of were (i'm not going to mention instate schools because they are affordable for me; would like to move toward east :) ):

    -Emory (top choice)
    -WUSTL (also top choice)
    -Vanderbilt (second choice)
    -UMD-college park <---problem out of state..?
    - UVA<<----problem out of state and may not met my needs how @college_ruled mentioned.

    @octoberbay: I'm not sure if these schools have a shortage of URMs. But I've heard that WUSTL might. (not sure though).
  • eastafrobeautyeastafrobeauty Registered User Posts: 2,430 Senior Member
    @entomom: I'm already having trouble finding data on % of admitted & rejected transfers :/ So it makes it difficult to compare and guess where I stand.

    @hahahah: I hope so :/
  • entomomentomom Registered User Posts: 23,662 Senior Member
    Please note: "eg." stands for "example", which means that the list is NOT exclusive.

    Transfer rates are relatively easy to find:

    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/947954-2010-transfer-rates.html

    But breakdown by ethnic, racial or any category is generally not available.
  • eastafrobeautyeastafrobeauty Registered User Posts: 2,430 Senior Member
    ^ thank you for the link :)

    I'm not necessarily counting on my URM advantage to help me out significantly but I'll give it a shot and I'll probably even write an amazing essay that showcases & reflects my personality and why I want to attend the school. Along with good recs, besides just having good stats.

    I guess I'll have to apply [in the near future] and see what happens :)
  • college_ruledcollege_ruled Registered User Posts: 1,243 Senior Member
    The college board and the common data set (google college + "common data set") will have transfer acceptance statistics.

    How are your high school stats? Are you planning to apply after one or two years?
  • eastafrobeautyeastafrobeauty Registered User Posts: 2,430 Senior Member
    ^
    I'm a rising senior (still in HS '15er) :/

    gpa: 3.0 (with a good course load) but with downward trend though...I even got a couple of D's and 2 F's [due to multiple reasons..mainly family/personal problems]. [i'm extremely ashamed of letting myself go like this]. So basically my HS record went from excellent to terrible. It's so bad..I wish I could go back in time to fix it but it's okay since I've learned a valuable lesson from it.

    but i plan on making a 4.0 my senior year though.

    SAT: 2050 ( this was from an 1820!!! I found out my new score last week; i was ecstatic :D)

    However, I know that if i transfer after 2 years HS record will not be taken into consideration too much. Even though it's completely fine if I stay for 2 years wherever I may end up. But I really want to transfer after one year so I can experience and make the most out of my college experience.
  • eastafrobeautyeastafrobeauty Registered User Posts: 2,430 Senior Member
    I'm going to give this thread a shameless bump :(
  • mimiedmimied Registered User Posts: 13 New Member
    no one really knows, this is one of the areas that schools strictly adhere to a tight-lip policy because if they say anything it can open the flood gates from opposing viewpoints. it is not a debate any school wants to get in because no matter which position they hold, they lose. remember the umich debacle in the early 2000s? if you don't, look up grutter v bollinger.
  • moneyman698moneyman698 Registered User Posts: 10 New Member
    Just work your hardest and don't try to use your minority status as an advantage. If you are accepted anywhere it should be because you deserved it. Wouldn't you care if people at your college knew you were accepted only because you're a minority?
  • CornellPersonCornellPerson Registered User Posts: 273 Junior Member
    It's a reasonable question to ask if being a minority would help, because if it does, it clearly opens up more possibilities.
  • slik nikslik nik Registered User Posts: 1,083 Senior Member
    You shouldn't be depending on your URM minority status to help you get into Emory or WashU. I agree with moneyman... work your hardest, take advantage of the opportunities that you are given, and you will have plenty of college options. Wouldn't you want to know that the admissions committee at Emory or WashU accepted you based on your achievements, instead of your race? Your race is something you are born with and cannot control, so I feel it shouldn't even be considered in the college admissions process (of course, race should not be held against someone either). Of course, that is just my opinion.
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