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AP Transfer Credit at Cal

Melanie786Melanie786 13 replies10 threads Junior Member
Hi! I'm not sure which AP exams to take this year! I'm definitely taking AP Gov and AP Lit, because I know that it will allow me to fulfill certain reqs, but I'm not sure about AP Psychology and AP Environmental Science. Do they carry any weight when it comes to transfer credit or skipping general electives?

Also, when I was completing my UC application, I said that I planned to take all four. Now, when I access CalCentral, it's under the "tasks" page to send my official score reports for them. Do I have to take them, though? I didn't realize that what I put on the UC application with respect to future AP Exams might be binding.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 82704 replies738 threads Senior Member
    Which division and major are you interested in?

    http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/exam-credit/ap-credits/berkeley/index.html gives general division level AP credit policy at UCB.

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21547888/#Comment_21547888 may help you with specific College of Letters and Science majors.
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  • Melanie786Melanie786 13 replies10 threads Junior Member
    I'm going into CS :)
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  • ProfessorPlum168ProfessorPlum168 4184 replies92 threads Senior Member
    There’s 2 programs for CS, one in L&S, one in CoE. A fairly significant difference in AP credit acceptance between the 2.
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  • Melanie786Melanie786 13 replies10 threads Junior Member
    @ProfessorPlum168 I am going into L&S
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  • ProfessorPlum168ProfessorPlum168 4184 replies92 threads Senior Member
    AP Lit is the one useful one, if you can get a 5. A 5 gives you subject credit and allows you to skip out of both English R&C classes. The others, if you get 3+ will give you graduation credit and when added up may give you give you an advanced class status (useful for registration) but that’s about it. Not useable for much else. You can’t use AP credits to fulfill any of the required 7 breadth classes.

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  • ElenaParentElenaParent 314 replies5 threads Member
    @Melanie786 As @ProfessorPlum168 said, go for AP Lit, otherwise you may be stuck taking Reading and Composition required courses, which, as a CS person, you may not be fond of very much. In addition, if your major eventually requires Math, then AP Calculus BC gives you out of jail card for the first two math courses (1A and 1B). My calculations and experience tell me that if you get enough APs, you may be able to get 2.5 semesters (or more) worth of elective credits, and that may shorten the time you pay for the undergraduate semesters, or allow you to triple major or whatever.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 82704 replies738 threads Senior Member
    Although some of the AP scores besides English may not give you anything toward graduation besides elective units, they may give you prerequisites to other courses. For example, AP psychology may let you into more advanced psychology courses without needing to take Psychology 1, if you decide to take out of major courses in that subject.
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  • ProfessorPlum168ProfessorPlum168 4184 replies92 threads Senior Member
    edited February 2019
    you do get subject credit for Psych 1 if you get a 4 or a 5. This gets into a tricky area though. For example, let's say you got a 5 in AP Psych and you got the subject credit for Psych 1. if you were a Data Science major (many CS folks double major in DS or go to DS if they don't get admitted into CS) and have your Domain Emphasis in say Cognition or Neuroscience, you may have to take Psych 1 over again if you wanted to take upper division Psych classes. (you probably still can take upper division classes in Psych without taking the class, but you would still need to retake Psych 1 or find some other substitute at some point). That's because Data Science doesn't accept AP classes to fulfill their domain emphasis classes. I speak from experience on this - my kid's AP credits in Biology, Chem and Psych are all useless in his case, as a CS/DS major, since he can't go to a more advanced class in his domain emphasis without re-taking the beginning class over again.

    For UC-Berkeley L&S, by far the most useful AP credits will be getting a 5 in AP Eng Lit and AP Calc BC. Any others are, meh.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 82704 replies738 threads Senior Member
    edited February 2019
    you may have to take Psych 1 over again if you wanted tI speak from experience on this - my kid's AP credits in Biology, Chem and Psych are all useless in his case, as a CS/DS major, since he can't go to a more advanced class in his domain emphasis without re-taking the beginning class over again.o take upper division Psych classes. (you probably still can take upper division classes in Psych without taking the class, but you would still need to retake Psych 1 or find some other substitute at some point)

    The psychology department lets its own majors skip Psychology 1 with a 4 or 5 on AP psychology (see https://psychology.berkeley.edu/students/undergraduate-program/lower-division-requirements-freshmen-admitted-fall-2018-or-later-and ), so a student who only wants to take upper division psychology courses that list Psychology 1 as a prerequisite (not all do), s/he can do so as far as the psychology department is concerned.
    I speak from experience on this - my kid's AP credits in Biology, Chem and Psych are all useless in his case, as a CS/DS major, since he can't go to a more advanced class in his domain emphasis without re-taking the beginning class over again.

    The cognition and neurosciences emphases in the data science major do not explicitly require Psychology 1, Biology 1A/1AL or 1B, or Chemistry 1A/1AL: https://data.berkeley.edu/degrees/domain-emphasis .

    In terms of prerequisites for upper division MCB courses, MCB does allow its majors to skip Biology 1A/1AL and 1B with a 4 on AP biology, but does recommend that students retake Biology 1A/1AL anyway: http://mcb.berkeley.edu/undergrad/advising/advising-office/freshmen#13 . It also allows skipping Chemistry 1A/1AL with a 4 on AP chemistry.
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  • ProfessorPlum168ProfessorPlum168 4184 replies92 threads Senior Member
    yes, but other domain emphases do require Biology or Chem (see Computational Biology). You're getting off track here. AP credits for subject credit are good only if you plan on pursuing upper level classes that might require that lower class. Otherwise it's nothing more than elective credit. A CS major at Berkeley might take upper level classes in one area and thus one AP class might be of use, but there's no way he or she will use the combination of Psychology, Biology, Chemistry, US History, etc. That was the main point - the AP credits for L&S is good for graduating early, it is good for getting a good registration time, but by and large don't do much else.
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