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***UC BERKELEY CLASS OF 2023 DECISION THREAD (STATS ONLY)***

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  • RoboticsWidowRoboticsWidow 91 replies5 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Decision: Accepted
    Mechanical Engineering

    Objective:
    SAT I (breakdown): 1410 (720 W 690 M)
    Capped Weighted UC GPA: 4.35
    Uncapped weighted: 4.45
    Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 42/749
    AP (place score in parenthesis): 9 APs, Hum G(4), Bio (4), Cal AB (4), LIT (4), US H (4), Physics (this year), Calc BC (this year), Gov (this year, Lang (this year)
    Senior Year Course Load: 4 APs, 1 honors, 3rd year language, plus extra 7th class in robotics
    Major Awards: FIRST Robotics Dean's List finalist, Eagle Scout, AP Scholar with Distinction

    Subjective:

    Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): 12 years competitive robotics, (FRC team CEO)
    Job/Work Experience: Employed as fencing armorer
    Volunteer/Community service: 300+ hours, Eagle Scout, STEM outreach
    Summer Activities:Engineering program at Berkeley
    Essays (rating 1-10, details): 8
    Supplemental Review or LOR submission:

    Applied for Financial Aid?: No
    Intended Major: Mechanical Engineering
    State (if domestic applicant): CA
    School Type:Public High School
    Gender:M
    ELC Eligibility:yes
    First Generation:no

    Reflection

    Strengths: Good GPA and lots of extra curricular applicable to degree
    Weaknesses: Not a good test taker, lower SAT, no 5 APs
    Why you think you were accepted:
    Where else were you accepted/: Purdue, Virginia Tech, WPI, SDSU, CalPoly SLO, UCI, UCR Honors, UCSD, UCSB, UCB
    Waitlisted: Georgia Tech
    Rejected: U Texas at Austin
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  • retiredfarmerretiredfarmer 1065 replies3 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @RoboticsWidow

    Texas and georgia must have their hands tied by in state requirements!
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  • Sushi121212Sushi121212 34 replies3 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Decision: Admitted

    Merit scholarships awarded (if any): None

    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: College of Letters and Science (Specifically Biology)

    Objective:
    UC Unweighted GPA: 3.81
    UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.81
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 4.03
    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available): 21/634
    Comments about course load (including senior year):
    ~Senior year: 4 AP classes (Bio, Chem, Calc AB, Lit)
    ~Junior year: 4 AP Classes+1 extra AP Chinese test (Lang, Music Theory, Physics, French), Pre-AP Precal
    ~Sophomore year: WHAP and 3 Pre-AP classes (English, Algebra II, French)
    ~Freshman year: 4 Pre-AP classes (World Geo, Geometry, English, French)
    SAT (total and sections): 1400 (670 R 730 M 21 W(7,7,7))
    ACT (total and sections): None
    SAT Subject Tests (if any): None
    AP exams (scores in parentheses): AP Chinese (4), AP World History (4), AP English Lang (4), AP Music Theory (3), AP French (3), AP Physics (2)
    IB exams (score in parentheses): None
    Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): State violin competition with monetary award, AP scholar with honor

    Subjective:
    Extracurriculars: Co-President of TAME (Texas math/engineering club), 3 years orchestra officer, NHS member, HOSA member, Mu Alpha Theta member.
    Job/Work Experience: Babysitter, Teacher's Assistant at Chinese School, Chinese-English Translator
    Volunteer/Community service: 60+ Hours volunteering at animal shelter, Algebra tutoring help, Chinese program assistant, public library aid
    Summer Activities: Took courses at local Community College, helped out with Chinese school summer camps

    Essays (topics, details):
    Greatest Talent: I talked about my experience preparing for a state violin competition, and how I will use the lessons of perseverance and hard work in college.
    Take advantage of Edu. Opp: Talked about the time I spent in Taiwan for a year in fourth grade and how I struggled as I couldn't keep up in a different language, but by self teaching I was able to understand more in class, and even as I came back to the US later, I continued to perfect my skills in Chinese school.
    Big Challenge: (My worst one) I talked about when I first came to the US and I was alone at Kindergarten until I started opening up to new people and learned to make friends and help myself adjust to the US.
    Make Community Better: Talked about how my job as a babysitter, and how I teach the girl I babysit English so she can enter Kindergarten able to speak English and get along with peers. I also wrote how I wish to do what my babysitters did for me when I was young and pay it forward.
    Letters of recommendation: None

    Demographics

    State (if domestic applicant): TX
    High school type: Public High School

    Gender: Female
    Race/ethnicity: Asian/Taiwanese

    Income: Around $140K
    Highest level of parent education: Masters (Both)
    Living with both, one, or no parents?: Both
    Relation to alumni of college: None

    Reflection

    Strengths: At first, I thought my essays were very weak. But as I read over it, I realized that though it could be structured better, all the content was there and I truly wrote with my heart. I believe that since I tied them in with being first generation American and how I will use these experiences from my childhood in college, it made my essays stronger.
    Weaknesses: My SAT score certainly could've been better
    Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I believe my essays and EC's were able to mask my SAT, thank goodness Berkeley looks at essays and EC's just as equally as scores.
    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    Accepted: UT Austin, Texas A&M College Station, UT Dallas
    Waitlisted: UCLA
    Rejected: Rice University

    General Comments:
    NO FOUR ADDRESSES!! I completely convinced myself of rejection with that and was a total waste of time
    Funny story: When I saw my results, I jumped straight out of my desk and started crying uncontrollably! It was pretty embarrassing as I was in after school tutorials for chemistry and everyone just stared at me, but I JUST GOT INTO BERKELEY!! This was absolutely a dream come true, I couldn't be more grateful! I wish EVERYONE luck going into college, no matter where! And if you're a current senior applying to college, I wish you much luck as well!
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  • recyclerushrecyclerush 2 replies0 threadsRegistered User New Member
    edited March 30
    Decision: Admitted

    Major: Mechanical Engineering

    UC Unweighted GPA: 3.89
    UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.07
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 4.37
    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available): N/A
    Comments about course load (including senior year): 4 AP + 1 honors out of 7 classes senior year, 4 ap + 2 honors out of 6 classes junior year, 1 AP + 3 honors out of 7 classes sophomore year, freshman year negligible
    SAT (total and sections): N/A
    ACT (total and sections): 36 comp, 35 english, 35 writing, 10/12 essay, 36 math, 36 science
    SAT Subject Tests (if any): 800 math II, 780 chem, 720 physics
    AP exams (scores in parentheses): AP Comp Sci A (5), AP Chinese (5), AP Chem (5), AP Calc BC (5), AP US History (5), AP Stats (5)
    Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AP Scholar with Distinction, National Merit Commended

    For the following, indicate level of recognition or award (e.g. local, state, national, international) and/or leadership roles:
    Extracurriculars: FIRST Robotics Team (Team Captain, Multiple Regional Awards), Club Volleyball (Team Captain, Junior Nationals Competitor), Plastic Scale Modeling (Numerous International Awards), TSA TEAMS (Design Captain, Regional Winner, Nationals Competitor)
    Job/Work Experience: Summer software internship
    Volunteer/Community service: ~300 hours at robotics summer camp, as well as tutoring low income children in math
    Summer Activities: Robotics Summer Camp Lead, Volleyball Camp,

    Essays (topics, details): Leadership Opportunity (robotics), Creativity (scale modeling), Improving community (robotics summer camp and passion for spreading STEM), Academic Inspiration (math/physics, connected back to robotics)

    State (if domestic applicant): California
    High school type: Public

    Gender: Male
    Race/ethnicity: Chinese

    Highest level of parent education: Masters (both parents)
    Living with both, one, or no parents?: both parents
    Relation to alumni of college: N/A

    Reflection

    Strengths: Extracurriculars were reasonable, which gave a lot of depth for my essays. ACT and AP scores were quite nice.
    Weaknesses: GPA was questionable since school was high performing, SAT physics was low for mechanical engineering major
    Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Actually no clue why I was accepted
    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Accepted UMich, UIUC, Purdue, Calpoly, UC Davis. Waitlisted Rice, UCLA, UCSD, UCSB. Rejected Stanford, Northwestern, UPenn, Cornell, Duke, Princeton. Still waiting on CMU.
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  • musiclover5musiclover5 84 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Decision: Admitted

    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: Engineering Physics (possibly will transfer to EECS, though)

    Academic stats:
    UC Unweighted GPA: 4.0
    UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.13
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 5.0
    Eligibility in Local Context?: Nope

    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available): N/A (but probably valedictorian)
    Comments about course load (including senior year): 6 tough classes, including senior thesis. No AP exams but taking AP/college level courses.
    SAT (total and sections): 1590 (790R, 800M)
    SAT Subject Tests (if any): 750 Math 2, 720 Physics
    AP exams (scores in parentheses): AP Lang - 5, AP Bio - 4, AP Chem - 3, AP Physics 1 - 4, AP Calc AB - 5
    Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Not at the time of application, except for AP Scholar Award :tongue:

    Subjective:
    Extracurriculars: speech and debate (club captain, nationally ranked in top ten), piano, voice (western and Carnatic)
    Job/Work Experience: N/A
    Volunteer/Community service: tutoring at an elementary school, mentor and moderator for online school, worship team at church (lead youth worship, lead pianist + vocalist)
    Summer Activities: taught at speech camps

    Essays (topics, details):
    Essay #1 -- leadership experience. Talked about how I mentored other students at online school, helping them assimilate.
    Essay #2 -- talent/skill. Talked about piano and how it changed me as a person.
    Essay #3 -- making community a better place. Talked about tutoring kids under the poverty line.
    Essay #4 -- anything else to add. Talked about women in STEM.
    Letters of recommendation: N/A

    Demographics

    State (if domestic applicant): California
    High school type: Private (homeschool online)

    Gender: Female
    Race/ethnicity: Asian Indian

    Applied for need-based financial aid?: No
    Pell grant eligible?: N/A
    Maximum Pell grant (FAFSA EFC = $0)?: N/A

    Highest level of parent education: Bachelors degree (both)
    Living with both, one, or no parents?: Both
    Relation to alumni of college: no

    Reflection

    Strengths: Good stats and ECs, essays
    Weaknesses: No job/work experience, no hooks
    Why you think you were accepted: I was surprised to say the least. I think it was really just the high scores and fact that I'm a woman in STEM.
    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    Accepted -- Biola, LeTourneau, UC Davis, UC Santa Cruz, UC San Diego, UCLA, Santa Clara, University of the Pacific
    Waitlisted -- UC Irvine
    Rejected -- Stanford, USC, Johns Hopkins, Cal Poly, Rice

    General Comments: Congratulations to all those admitted! I will probably be going to Santa Clara or Berkeley, so perhaps I'll see some of you there. To those who did not get admitted, don't stress or be disappointed. In the end, it's what you do and who you are that matters, not where you go. So keep doing your best, and God will do the rest! :smiley:
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  • lucadeanglucadeang 2 replies7 threadsRegistered User New Member
    edited April 3
    Decision: Admitted


    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: psychology

    Academic stats:

    Unweighted GPA: 3.76
    Weighted GPA: 4.47
    Weighted and Capped GPA: 4.24


    Comments about course load (including senior year): I took 7 dance courses throughout high school which took away from my academics slightly but showed dedication to an art, and my senior year schedule had lots of electives, but they were sociology, AP psychology, film and society, which all somehow relate to my applied major.
    SAT (total and sections): 1570
    math 800
    english 770
    SAT Subject Tests (if any): none
    AP exams (scores in parentheses):
    World History (4)
    Statistics (4)
    Psychology (5)
    Lang(4)
    Intending to take Gov, Econ, and Lit

    Subjective:

    Extracurriculars: Preprofessional dance program (15+ hrs a week), president of Gender Sexuality Alliance, President of a multimedia arts coalition club type thing (difficult to describe)
    Job/Work Experience:
    Research assistant with the US embassy for a summer, math tutoring
    Volunteer/Community service:
    Volunteer with a congressional campaign


    Essays (topics, details):
    • An essay about finding my place in the dance community after coming out as transgender (this was my strongest essay)
    • teaching my little how brother to read, connected back to my interest in developmental psychology
    • an analysis on how a specific psychological theory explains why I became interested in psychology



    Demographics

    State (if domestic applicant): California
    High school type: public
    Gender: nonbinary
    Race/ethnicity: white

    Highest level of parent education:
    both attended grad school
    Living with both, one, or no parents?:
    one parent, other lives abroad
    Relation to alumni of college:
    Mom was a student for one year

    Reflection

    Strengths: My essays show strong self reflection abilities, and a complex understanding of my field of study. My extracurriculars aren’t very impressive individually but show a dedication to a few key topics. My SAT is very high which helps.
    Weaknesses: Low unweighted GPA and no SAT subject tests.
    Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    essays and extracurriculars that related to the essays

    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    waitlisted at every UC except LA(rejected)
    Accepted to Oregon, Boulder, Indiana, and Reed
    Rejected from Brown
    edited April 3
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  • UndercrackersUndercrackers 869 replies2 threadsRegistered User Member
    @musiclover5 Do not count on being able to transfer to EECS - most people are admitted as freshman. CS in L&S would be your better bet if you are leaning that way.
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  • ProfessorPlum168ProfessorPlum168 4064 replies87 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    As of 2017 you cannot transfer internally into EECS. The only way to get into EECS is by getting in as an admit out of HS, or as a transfer student.
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  • tennisninjatennisninja 61 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @ProfessorPlum168 You can do a simultaneous degree across colleges, but it is probably extremely difficult to balance another major alongside EECS.
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  • musiclover5musiclover5 84 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
  • ProfessorPlum168ProfessorPlum168 4064 replies87 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Ah yes, within CoE it is still possible but hard. From other schools it is impossible.
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  • swagmaster2001swagmaster2001 77 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Admitted

    Merit scholarships awarded (if any): none

    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: Microbial Biology in the College of Natural Resources

    Academic stats:


    UC Unweighted GPA: 4.0
    UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.29
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 4.5
    Eligibility in Local Context?: yes

    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available):
    Comments about course load (including senior year): 8 classes, 5 AP's
    SAT (total and sections): 1500 Math: 800/ R&W : 700
    ACT (total and sections):
    SAT Subject Tests (if any):
    AP exams (scores in parentheses):
    IB exams (score in parentheses):
    Major Awards (USAMO, I
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  • swagmaster2001swagmaster2001 77 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    edited April 8
    Decision: Accepted

    Merit scholarships awarded (if any): none

    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: Microbial Biology (College of Natural Resources)

    Academic stats:
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    UC Unweighted GPA: 4.0
    UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.29
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 4.5
    Eligibility in Local Context?: Yes

    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available): School doesn't rank.
    Comments about course load (including senior year): 4 yrs. of science, math, english, and Spanish
    Senior yr: 5 AP's AP Physics, AP Calculus, AP Lit., AP Spanish, AP Biology and 2 electives
    SAT (total and sections): 1500 (Math: 800 R/W: 700)
    ACT (total and sections):
    SAT Subject Tests (if any):
    AP exams (scores in parentheses): Music Theory: 4, AP Euro History: 4, AP Language:3
    IB exams (score in parentheses):
    Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):

    Subjective:

    For the following, indicate level of recognition or award (e.g. local, state, national, international) and/or leadership roles:
    Extracurriculars: Dance team, Choir 4 years, Participated in 3 high school musicals
    Job/Work Experience: Volunteer at health clinics
    Volunteer/Community service: Ronald Mc Donald Club, Choir Club, Volunteer at summer dance camp
    Summer Activities: Summer Healthcare Experience at UCI

    Essays (topics, details):
    Letters of recommendation:

    Demographics

    State (if domestic applicant): CA
    Country (if international applicant):
    High school type: Large Public High School Senior Class about 1000 students

    Gender: Female
    Race/ethnicity: Asian

    Applied for need-based financial aid?: YES
    Pell grant eligible?: no
    Maximum Pell grant (FAFSA EFC = $0)?:

    Highest level of parent education: BS
    Living with both, one, or no parents?: Both
    Relation to alumni of college: no

    Reflection

    Strengths: GPA, SAT scores, extra curricular activities
    Weaknesses: Leadership and community service
    Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: High GPA and SAT
    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Accepted: UCI (Campuswide Honors Program), UCSB, UCLA, Boston College, University of Rochester, CSULB
    Waitlisted: Northeastern University
    Rejected: UPenn, Cornell
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  • tttrantttran 1 replies0 threadsRegistered User New Member
    [aB][asize=4][acolor=#008000]Decision: Admitted[/color][/size][/b]

    Merit scholarships awarded (if any):

    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: L&S. Comp Sci

    Academic stats:

    UC Unweighted GPA: 4.0
    UC Capped Weighted GPA:
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 4.10
    Eligibility in Local Context?:

    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available): top 10
    Comments about course load (including senior year): AP Micro Econ, AP Macro Econ, AP Stat, AP English, Multivariable Cal, honor thesis
    SAT (total and sections): did not take
    ACT (total and sections): 35/36
    SAT Subject Tests (if any): Math iic- 800, Physics 800
    AP exams (scores in parentheses): AP Cal BC (5, AB subscore 5), AP Chem (5), AP Physics C (5), AP US His (4), AP Physics 2 (5), AP Enviro (5)
    IB exams (score in parentheses):
    Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):

    Subjective:

    For the following, indicate level of recognition or award (e.g. local, state, national, international) and/or leadership roles:
    Extracurriculars: FTC, Biking, Speech and Debate, astronomy club, computer science club, translate Spanish to English at local migrant worker organization
    Job/Work Experience: NASA research, Search Engineer at japanese company
    Volunteer/Community service: Tutoring middle school girls math
    Summer Activities: Stanford Summer Program, Princeton SIG, UNESCO photography

    Essays (topics, details): Talk about my struggles from Vietnam to study abroad in the US, community service at Tijuana, Mexico, playing the piano, etc.
    Letters of recommendation: Pretty good. My recommender really talk about my experience in projects programming. My mentor at NASA really talk a lot about my work ethics and attitude towards research and problem-solving.

    Demographics

    State (if domestic applicant):
    Country (if international applicant): Vietnam
    High school type: Private catholic

    Gender: Female
    Race/ethnicity: Asian

    Applied for need-based financial aid?:
    Pell grant eligible?:
    Maximum Pell grant (FAFSA EFC = $0)?:

    Highest level of parent education: Bachelor
    Living with both, one, or no parents?: both
    Relation to alumni of college: nope

    Reflection

    Strengths: Activities and essay
    Weaknesses: Community service. I think I can definitely do more diverse community services through my high school so that it would be more helpful to talk about in the college essays. I did focus a lot on only a few community service, such as working with migrant worker organization in local area.
    Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    Accept: Harvard, Caltech, UCLA, CWRU, Depaul, U Minnesota Twin Cities, U Miami
    Watilist: Bowdoin, Haverford, Emory, Franklin & Marshall
    Rejected: MIT, Princeton, UPenn, Williams, Carleton (I did apply to a lot of colleges in the US)
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  • Gandalf1414Gandalf1414 30 replies2 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    edited April 26
    Decision: Admitted

    Merit scholarships awarded (if any): None

    Major (and division if applicable) applied to: Physics

    Academic stats:

    Calculate your GPAs with https://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/
    UC Unweighted GPA: 3.79
    UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.04
    UC Fully Weighted GPA: 4.36
    Eligibility in Local Context?: No
    Note: almost all my Bs were in Foreign Language (french)

    Rank, percentile rank, or percentile range (if available): top 30%
    Comments about course load (including senior year): Took multivariable calc, differential equations, psychology, and ewrt 1a (equivalent to first sem of english at berkeley) concurrently when I was in Junior year. Senior year: AP Chem, AP Stats, AP gov/macroecon (semester each), myth/folk (12th grade reg lit). Fall 2018 concurrent classes at De Anza/Foothill (GEO 10, ANTH 1, MUS 8) Winter 2019 (EWRT 2, ECON 1B, ANTH 5) Spring 2019 (MATH 2B, HIST 4A). I marked these classes as planned on the UC App.
    SAT (total and sections): did not take
    ACT (total and sections): 34 (34W, 35M, 31R, 36S) 8 essay
    SAT Subject Tests (if any): 790 Math 2, 760 World History, 760 Physics
    AP exams (scores in parentheses): 5 AP physics C both exams, 4 AP physics 1, 5 ap calc bc, 4 apush, 4 psychology (did not take class), 5 world history (did not take class at school)
    IB exams (score in parentheses): none
    Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): got semifinalist at MIT Inspire, NAQT national award, state qb award, regional science fair award

    Subjective:

    For the following, indicate level of recognition or award (e.g. local, state, national, international) and/or leadership roles:
    Extracurriculars: Astronomy Club (President), Quiz Bowl (Vice President), we won national/state awards in quiz bowl, and I also wrote for an EC that I did independent research papers in the form of MIT inspire/science fair projects
    Job/Work Experience: None
    Volunteer/Community service: None
    Summer Activities: reading? watching movies?

    Essays (topics, details): Really good, this is why I got in I think
    academic passion essay about astronomy (8.5/10) - was very passionate and gave specific details on how i furthered this
    leadership essay about quiz bowl (7/10) - not very interesting, but shows I was active and helped improve club
    creativity essay about making maps/scenarios for a video game (8.5/10) - passionate again
    skill? essay about art appreciation (10/10) - really really passionate, and formatted essay uniquely
    Letters of recommendation: None, not asked

    Demographics

    State (if domestic applicant): CA
    Country (if international applicant):
    High school type: Large competitive public in Silicon Valley South Bay around 600 seniors each year graduate

    Gender: Male
    Race/ethnicity: Asian (Filipino-Chinese)

    Applied for need-based financial aid?: No
    Pell grant eligible?:No
    Maximum Pell grant (FAFSA EFC = $0)?:

    Highest level of parent education: professional degree
    Living with both, one, or no parents?:both
    Relation to alumni of college:none

    Reflection

    Strengths: Essays, ECs I cared about, recognition for said ECs, course rigor
    Weaknesses: GPA
    Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: My art essay was really unique, my other essays were unique, passionate, and geeky as well. My main weakness was my french grades which destroyed my GPA, but ECs, course rigor, strong grades in other classes made up for it.
    Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
    accepted at UIUC (engineering), Purdue (engineering), UWashington (engineering), UCD, UCSB, UCI, Cal Poly SLO (engineering), SJSU (engineering)
    waitlisted at UCSD (engineering) and UCSC.
    rejected at UCLA (engineering)

    General Comments: Didn't apply to privates/anywhere that needed a secondary school report because I get no aid. Don't be afraid to do what I did as if you wouldn't go to a school even if you get accepted, then don't apply. I saved a lot of time and money, and that extra time I used to polish essays.
    edited April 26
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