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what is my chance in UCLA

Mango 3Mango 3 1 replies1 threads New Member
What is my chance in UCLA I have 3.85 GPA U/W And 4.55 W. SAT 1560 ACT 36 and Sub SAT ( math2 800, chem 780, Phy 790 , Bio 800) I have total 12 AP classes at the and of the senior year. I have 7 AP all 5 except one 4 in com principal. in activity I am doing Orienteering , robotics , I am president in Geography Olympiad club and I have almost 350 Hrs in Volunteer service. I also did in Summer internship .
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  • izrk02izrk02 510 replies19 threads Member
    You need to give more info. Are you OOS? If yes, it would be a slight reach just because they prioritize in state. If you're in state then it's a match.
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  • GumbymomGumbymom 29139 replies250 threadsForum Champion UC Forum Champion
    UC GPA’s? https://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/

    Intended major?

    In-state/OOS/International?
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  • Mango 3Mango 3 1 replies1 threads New Member
    in state and aerospace engineering
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  • GumbymomGumbymom 29139 replies250 threadsForum Champion UC Forum Champion
    UCLA is a Reach but an attainable Reach.

    Best of luck.
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  • firmament2xfirmament2x 366 replies2 threads Member
    @Mango3 . . . your stats are impeccable, inclusive of the SATII scores, as well as are your ECs. If you get in, you'll be further along in getting all your lower-division prereqs for Aerospace out of the way. Your AP scores at UC will give you college credit, but they will also bump up your units towards graduating if you want to take more upper-level Aerospace classes. It's a good system, and UC wants to accommodate whatever you wish: getting out earlier or taking more upper-div major (or even non-major) related classes.

    With this in mind, the only soft spot in your stats -- if I may nitpick -- is your uwgpa. The median uw for the University was 3.95-3.96, and the average, 3.90, for the entire 2019 frosh class. Additionally, as is obvious, the HSSEAS (if I have the initials right) has its own stepped-up admissions protocol, and it is heavily stats-based.

    The admitted 2018 frosh class for E was 4.0/4.5+/1,540 at the median. This settled back to ~ a 1,515 SAT midpoint, based off of a 1,480 at the 25th percentile and 1,550 at the 75th, and probably still a 4.0 uw at the median for the enrolled E students in that year. There were 26,832 frosh apps to E with 2,987 admitted, an 11.1% acceptance rate, with 921 who enrolled, a 30.8% yield. The 26,832 who applied to E in 2018 was a whopping 23.6% (about one-quarter!) of the apps of a total of 113,761 who applied to the University.

    In 2019 the admissions numbers were: 25,804/2,505/772 (apps/acceptances/enrollees), or 9.7%/30.8% (acceptance percent/yield rate). So the acceptance rate went down by 1.4% from 2018 to 2019.

    Sorry for my format; I should have just listed the numbers in a spreadsheet template instead. The gist of my exercise is that the uw gpa should be 4.0 at the median along with a very high SAT or ACT, though your scores are certainly higher. Congrats on your 36 ACT . . . excellent.

    If I we had known about your app before you sent it off, I would have said that if UCLA was your dream school to consider applying to a non-E program and to take advantage of the Math and program in computing courses, along with stats and physics and whatever else. They wouldn't have given you your specific aerospace-related classes, but maybe maybe they could given you ins to a grad aerospace program by the time you finish your undergrad. But if you'd be happy wherever majoring in AE, then I think you have exhibited a great strategy. The thing of which to be mindful is that UCLA doesn't recycle E applicants -- it's either you're in or you're not. I hope that as UCLA becomes more STEM oriented in the future, that it will give E students as yourself a way into the University by putting in an alternate major or to establish a pre-E major for a subset of students and let them fight it out for spots in the E college.

    Sorry for the verbosity; all the best.

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  • firmament2xfirmament2x 366 replies2 threads Member
    Sorry, here's the link with some of the info:

    https://www.apb.ucla.edu/campus-statistics/admissions
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  • Heyryan227Heyryan227 13 replies0 threads New Member
    @firmament2x Where can you look at the specific stats (Median SAT Scores, GPA, etc) for Engineering or College of Letters and Science applicants? I know there are the overall stats on the UCLA webpage, but just wondering where you got the school/major specific ones ... thanks.
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  • firmament2xfirmament2x 366 replies2 threads Member
    edited January 14
    @Heyryan227 . . . UCLA, as very few universities do, will occasionally release stats related to an admissive policy for its colleges, or some other aspect, like the outcomes of its students' applications to medical school for a year or a few years. But then they won't continue doing this every year.

    I'm not sure (edit: what) the reasoning behind their releasing spotty data is, but my reference to the 2018 E frosh class has been posted here by @10s4life and on wikipedia. A wiki article on Samueli references this link:

    https://samueli.ucla.edu/incoming-engineering-freshmen-share-why-they-are-uclabound2022/

    The SAT and ACT scores of those who enrolled in the E school in 2018 are listed here at the American Society of Engineering Education ("ASEE") website, which UCLA (but not other universities) is consistent in maintaining:

    http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/8219/screen/19

    The University will probably produce a 2019-20 University-wide Council of Engineering Education ("UCEE") report possibly later this month, which has specific enrollments in the school of E by major and other data, but without stats. Here's the 2018-19 report for HSSEAS:

    https://www.seasoasa.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/seasoasa/2018-UCEE-Report-2.pdf

    Then, there's the link which I provided above.

    The UC website, https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/
    will have a lot of gpa information for overall admits and enrollees, but no SAT/ACT information for freshman applicants. This is an attempt by the University as a whole, the UC, to downplay the importance of the college boards.

    There's a specific dashboard at this site which has transfer gpas from source colleges, with respect to major. You just have to wade through all of their data presentations to find whatever you need, but there's no place (no consistent site) that will show specific E or L&S stats, especially for frosh.

    Hope this helps as least a little. Btw, for board admin, I'm still having trouble with doubly-entered words as in my post #5.
    edited January 14
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  • Heyryan227Heyryan227 13 replies0 threads New Member
    @firmament2x Thank you!
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  • firmament2xfirmament2x 366 replies2 threads Member
    You're welcome, @Heyryan227, all the best.

    I wanted to clarify a part of my last paragraph in my post #5:

    The thing of which to be mindful is that UCLA doesn't recycle E applicants -- it's either you're in or you're not. I hope that as UCLA becomes more STEM oriented in the future, that it will give E students as yourself a way into the University by putting in an alternate major or (edit:) establishing a pre-E major for a subset of students and let them fight it out for spots in the E college.

    What I meant was that in addition to those who get into the University with their first-choice engineering majors, those who don’t for a well-qualified subset shouldn’t be summarily rejected without any chance for admittance, but they should have the option of being placed in a Pre-E major or have their choice of any other within L&S.

    Those who choose to be placed in Pre-E would then compete against a gpa, say a 3.3-3.5 in the prereq-E courses – never a hard figure, or against the other pre-E majors for a set number to be admitted or not to E via these pre-courses, i.e., the Math 30 series, physics 1 clusters, beginning specific E courses, etc., in the spring quarter of their sophomore years. There is currently a pathway for those who don’t declare E as a major on their application to be admitted to E, but it is highly implicit and there isn’t a definite pathway, and it almost seems to be highly discouraged (or it certainly is discouraging).

    Those who don’t make it into engineering as frosh or juniors, besides those who transfer in from community college or elsewhere, would be given the opportunity to major in physics or some other science including, Mathematics of Computation, Data Theory, Stats, and the other math-related majors and have the Program in Computing courses readily available to them, in addition to the computationally related minors like Digital Humanities, the courses in Stats, Bioinformatics, etc.

    (There’s an alumnus in biology who discovered bioinformatics later in her undergrad, attached it as a minor, and is now in UCLA’s CS PhD program. Minors are good and can often point someone to a career, especially those who major in the social sciences.)

    This would better enable UCLA to help feed the nation’s and state’s need to have more of those who are involved in STEM fields. UCLA does want to grow its E department to at least 7,000, and the University is currently in the process of hiring 100 additional E professors. Being that there are ~ 6,000 total E students on campus presently of which ~ 4,000 are undergrads, this would seemingly imply that UCLA wants to have 5,000-5,500 undergrad E majors, and if it is smart most of these additional students would be CS, CS&E, CE or EE. (There is an undeclared E major, which the E dean believes is the best offering because they can float among the E majors; I don’t know if they have to eventually declare, and maybe @10s4life can clairify.)

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  • 10s4life10s4life 2259 replies47 threadsForum Champion UCLA Forum Champion
    Undeclared Engineering is the hardest one to get into. Not advised if you have any idea of what to declare. You eventually do have to pick a major ad undeclared. It’s just admission into every engr major.
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  • firmament2xfirmament2x 366 replies2 threads Member
    @10s4life . . . thank you for the clarification.
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  • 2015vintagemars2015vintagemars 36 replies0 threads Junior Member
    @firmament2x - thank you for the detailed info.
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