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about the "business" major

tenacious.soltenacious.sol Registered User Posts: 246 Junior Member
At UCLA, it's been said that there is not really a business major or accounting major except in biz econ and economics. There is an accounting minor program, but is that pretty good ...almost like if you're majoring in it? If there was a choice between UCLA or USC for accounting/finance/economics which one would be better? Is it worth going to USC undergraduate for business or better to go into their graduate school? Give me some advantages and disadvantages about UCLA/USC's business area and finally is it good to have a strong alumni for business?
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  • fastMEdfastMEd - Posts: 1,073 Member
    USC is better for business, stronger alumni network, and more variety and depth.

    I think for a business education, USC is the way to go, just cause they have a business program.

    But its not like UCLA BizEcon will lead you to begging on the street. It is an alright program, and you can finish it very fast. 2 years if you are willing to take 4 classes each quarter and do summer session.
  • yahoooyahooo Registered User Posts: 1,386 Senior Member
    A business major for undergraduate isn't necessary if you plan to get an MBA. I think much of the two overlap.
  • fastMEdfastMEd - Posts: 1,073 Member
    true, but it helps you get that mba.
  • __allie____allie__ Registered User Posts: 3,066 Senior Member
    eh but so does putting in a few years of work. majoring in a straight business program, or business-related programs in general, are not really necessary to get a mba from a good school.

    i dunno. my friend is a former business major at SC and he doesn't have many kind things to say about the program. he describes it as being in a very, very expensive vocational school without much breadth or variety. "all mundane practice and no theory."

    if thats something you're looking for, then i guess that'd be fine. but i've found through talking to people that UCLA biz econ generally allows for more flexibility in your curriculum and will allow you to explore other things alongside your business training. supplemented with internships (which everyone should do anyway), biz econ is just as good as being a part of a "real" business program.
  • passerbypasserby Registered User Posts: 617 Member
    Just to point out, majoring in business does not make you more likely to get into business school. If you look at the stats, the most common major for business school students is engineering.
  • tenacious.soltenacious.sol Registered User Posts: 246 Junior Member
    would you even consider UCLA's biz econ major to have a lot of emphasis on accounting like a full, real accounting major...maybe at USC
  • AltemaAltema Registered User Posts: 1,082 Senior Member
    Biz econ alone does not require you to take many courses in accounting, but most people who do Biz Econ or even Econ take accounting as a minor and that requires that you take a bit more accounting classes. Whether or not that matches up to a real accounting major at USC, I don't know. I would venture to say no, since its merely a minor here.
  • dyip10dyip10 Registered User Posts: 532 Member
    USC is better for business, stronger alumni network, and more variety and depth.

    I think for a business education, USC is the way to go, just cause they have a business program.

    I am not sure if USC has a stronger alumni network. It has never been proven. However, USC graduates do not get better jobs after graduation. From first hand experience, there were more UCLA students than USC students at a particular Big Four accounting firm. There were also more recruiters who are UCLA alumni.

    Although UCLA is a much larger school, only around 5% of the students are Business Economics majors and/or Accounting minors. In contrast, almost a quarter of students at USC are business majors.
    There is an accounting minor program, but is that pretty good ...almost like if you're majoring in it
    The UCLA accounting minor has more than the necessary classes necessary to take and pass the CPA exam. No recruiter will say that USC is clearly the better accounting school.

    *USC does have a business administration major. That means they have marketing classes and other non-business finance/accounting classes.
    However, UCLA has four finance/investment classes, and more than enough accounting and economics classes. Do not choose USC over UCLA if you are interested in "accounting/finance/economics." By the way, UCLA's economic department is significantly better. I also do not know why you would want to go to USC for graduate school since UCLA's business school is much better.
  • tenacious.soltenacious.sol Registered User Posts: 246 Junior Member
    would getting a bachelors in business administration be kind of pointless if you want to get an MBA? By the way is UCLA's biz econ major/accounting minor pretty good if you want to go into any type of business or job such as accounting, owning your business, Investment banking, etc?
  • passerbypasserby Registered User Posts: 617 Member
    Some Biz econ and accounting minor graduates do end up working for Big 4 accounting firms, Consulting firms, Investment banks, etc.

    Getting a BBA wouldnt exactly be "pointless" if you want an MBA. A lot of people have a BBA and then get an MBA. I read somewhere that Business is the 2nd most common undergrad major among Business School students.

    Edit: You probably would be interested in knowing that there is talk of creating a Business Minor at UCLA. From what I've heard, it's still in the early stages though and nothing is certain yet.
  • UCLAriUCLAri Registered User Posts: 14,740 Senior Member
    fastMEd is unfortunately wrong.

    Getting a BBA or any other business degree as an undergrad doesn't "help" in any way. What helps you get into a good b-school is a high GPA, a good GMAT score, and good work experience. Your major is, for the most part, immaterial.

    The fact that many b-school students have BBAs is more likely a testament to the fact that business-minded people tend to start young more than some sort of preference on the part of the schools.
  • fastMEdfastMEd - Posts: 1,073 Member
    If I am indeed wrong, I think it would be fortunately not unfortunately, but honestly, I think a full fledged undergraduate business degree will put you at an advantage for finding certain business jobs.

    Not only is your mind more exposed to the material, you may also be a bit more attractive perhaps to employers with a business degree from a respectable school. I believe there was an article in the Daily Bruin about this a couple years ago.
  • UCLAriUCLAri Registered User Posts: 14,740 Senior Member
    Actually, I think it's unfortunate. People are spending four years on a degree that offers few advantages over an econ degree!

    fastMEd, any good econ major can compete with a BBA. Do you honestly believe that an econ major from Harvard is at any disadvantage compared to a BBA from USC? I doubt it. The only think the BBA offers is perhaps easier access to b-school resources that are accessible anyway at most schools.
  • fastMEdfastMEd - Posts: 1,073 Member
    Oh. It would be fortunate if I am wrong because it would mean that UCLA BizEcon students are not at a disadvantage to USC business students.

    Well, UCLA is not bad, but it's no Harvard. Traditionally, in schools that offer both business and economics programs, the economics students are considered of slightly lower caliber.

    In my opinion, economics is more an academic discipline whereas business is more of a professional training program. Thus, there would probably be a good deal more career support for the business program, either official or unofficial.

    Of course, these are all just guesses that can't be verified since the UCLA career center does not collect undergraduate career data.
  • UCLAriUCLAri Registered User Posts: 14,740 Senior Member
    In some schools, that may hold true (I suspect that may be true at Penn, for example.)

    However, a 3.7 from Penn econ vs. a 3.7 from Wharton will afford you largely the same opportunities. You cannot discount the fact that people change majors... a lot.

    UCLA biz econ majors have one advantage coming out the gate that USC grads don't-- the fact that UCLA is seen as edging out USC in quality (if only a tiny bit.) Otherwise, it comes down completely to the individual.
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