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UF = #1 Party School in the Nation!

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  • rainydysndmondysrainydysndmondys 155 replies11 threads Junior Member
    Okay, BUT, the schools are ranked on a scale from 60-99 and we got a 97. We're still up there, so I at least can feel better about not making that list.
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  • ASMAJASMAJ 2085 replies12 threads Senior Member
    I was trying to find UFs ranking or score. Could you give me a link to where you found it?
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  • mom2threemom2three 727 replies83 threads Member
    Son is a high school senior this year. We have one Gator son, and one Knight son (UCF) in the family. For a lot of reasons, it's unfair to compare their college experiences, but nonetheless, if son #3 is accepted to both schools, we will not just automatically choose UF. This party-rep thing (and I'm a Florida native, so it's not news to me) certainly doesn't make us lean harder towards UF.
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  • SSobickSSobick 1923 replies408 threads Senior Member
    ^ Yes, but remember UCF is a directional school.
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  • mom2threemom2three 727 replies83 threads Member
    Um, yes? Not sure of your point.
    I'm just saying that UF is not automatically a "no-brainer" for those who are accepted. There are lots of factors to consider. School rep and ranking are among them. UF's rep, in a lot of areas, could use some work, as the Princeton ranking indicates. Also, after 48 years in the sunshine state, the whole Gator thing gets old. It's not Harvard. Yes, a lot more kids apply than get in. But surely the "if you don't come here, we don't care; there's plenty more where you came from" attitude could be tempered somewhat.
    Like I said, we have a Gator son. He bleeds orange and blue. But there are other schools out there where a Florida kid can get a good education with a great college experience.
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  • xNYerxNYer 435 replies19 threads Member
    Does anyone seriously think that employers actually read PR ???

    Chances on employers making hiring decisions on PR rankings = 0.0%
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  • rogracerrogracer 1195 replies10 threads Senior Member
    Holding two concurrent national championships...the celebrating that went with that...including national TV coverage from University Ave of the festivities....I'm sure went a long way to securing the title for UF. I wouldn't place too much stock in it. I seem to remember a simpler time when Dartmouth held the title.
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  • dvm258dvm258 1022 replies40 threads Senior Member
    SSobick, please define "directional school" for us.

    I think your use of the phrase is a bit too extreme.
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  • goufgatorsgoufgators 580 replies45 threads Member
    dvm258,

    UCF is a regional school because most of its students come from the Orlando area.
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  • goufgatorsgoufgators 580 replies45 threads Member
    mom2three,

    Please, don't be niave. Your kid is going to drink and party no matter which university he attends.

    "But there are other schools out there where a Florida kid can get a good education with a great college experience."

    How do you define a "great college experience"?
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  • dvm258dvm258 1022 replies40 threads Senior Member
    Then UF is also a directional school, because most of its students come from the state of Florida. There, I said it.

    There's another world for it; I believe it's "public."

    UCF releases their FTIC enrollment statistics by county on their website. This is the one for the 07-08 recruitment year.

    http://www.iroffice.ucf.edu/factbooks/2007-2008/table8.pdf

    Orange and Seminole counties (the Orlando area) do contribute a large amount of students to the university, but it is only 36% of the student body; not a majority. There is plenty of geographical diversity to be found.
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  • mom2threemom2three 727 replies83 threads Member
    "Please, don't be niave. Your kid is going to drink and party no matter which university he attends."

    goufgators - He very well may. But here's a shocker for you. Not EVERY kid drinks and parties at college. Maybe not even at UF. The attitude that it is a foregone conclusion sort of underlines the PR rankings.
    I am not naive. I have actually attended college AND seen the empties in my kids' dorms. It's an overall atmosphere that I am talking about. And attitude. As for defining a great college experience, I'll leave that to individual students. Again, that's the point. I also know several students who have NOT had a "great" college experience at UF. They are no longer there. UF couldn't care less. Plenty more where they came from.

    There are some schools with a different vibe. And that might be a better fit for some kids.
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  • zebeszebes 1255 replies71 threads Senior Member
    ^^^
    I think Mom2three's putting it the way we've been pondering over everything ourselves, and, no, we don't have a UF kid there now as she does. But when you look at all things UF, we actually have a bit of a pro-con list. Pro: the programs (across the board) my D appears to be looking at are very strong at UF in the state. However, con: a feeling of just being a number and if you don't want us ... ah well, there'll be plenty behind you who do, the way their Honors program is set up v.s. UCF and FSU's in terms of priority registration and other "intangibles", the way merit aid's dried up, and now this perception, to those of us who want to have as good a time as the next guy, but not necessarily in a bacchus pit. Frankly, I think there's a good chance D will end up at UF, but we are going in with our eyes wide open to some of the negatives.

    zebes
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  • SSobickSSobick 1923 replies408 threads Senior Member
    ^ At UCF the students are just a number as well. They will soon have almost 40k undergraduates, and their class-sizes are larger than UF & FSU.

    UF & FSU = 21:1
    UCF = 28:1
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  • mom2threemom2three 727 replies83 threads Member
    SSobick - at UCF my son hasn't felt like just a number. That's the difference. It's just the vibe. Son #3 may very well end up as a Gator. That's fine with me. But if a school that is trying to enhance it's academic reputation turns up as number one in partying and not studying, well, it's not a plus for me.
    That's all I'm saying.
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  • datadata 203 replies8 threads Junior Member
    Personally, I don't think these ratings mean much at all. I'm very skeptical as to how they can seriously get an unbiased sample, and then how they can rate that. IMO a visit to the campus and shadowing a student will give a much more accurate and realistic view, not some ranking.
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  • alioooopalioooop 41 replies3 threads Junior Member
    Anyone who has taken a basic statistics course is well aware of the the reliability of such studies. Entertaining? Yes. Legitimate? Not so much.
    A little bit of research uncovers that P.R.:
    -only surveyed an average of about 350 people per school
    -majority were online surveys
    No talk of a random sample etc.
    It's honestly a shame that there are people truly looking into these rankings like they're the dogma of college credibility.
    For anyone who even slightly doubts the academic integrity of UF, or even briefly considers the notion that UF students can get through a rigorous 15+ credit hour course load without hitting the books quite frequently based on these rankings: please don't come here. You're right, there are plenty of others DYING to take your place.
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  • rainydysndmondysrainydysndmondys 155 replies11 threads Junior Member
    How do they pick their 350? Is it voluntary or what?
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  • goufgatorsgoufgators 580 replies45 threads Member
    "Orange and Seminole counties (the Orlando area) do contribute a large amount of students to the university, but it is only 36% of the student body; not a majority. There is plenty of geographical diversity to be found."

    36% from just two counties. If you include the immediate surrounding counties, you are at 53.3%! This statistically shows that the majority of the students come from same region. That is why UCF is a regional, directional school. It's in the name: University of CENTRAL Florida.
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