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UF Honors Program

navarre1navarre1 Registered User Posts: 379 Member
edited July 2009 in University of Florida
I see that Florida requires 2070 on the SAT or 33 on the ACT to be admitted into the honors program. Does anyone know why Florida would require a much higher ACT than SAT score? The only conclusion I can come up with is, Florida respects the SAT test more.
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  • ufparentufparent Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    I can't say for sure with UF, but if you look back into the history of ACT vs SAT,
    SAT was geared towards those going into sciences, math and engineering.
    ACT was geared more towards the liberal arts.
    While times may have changed, there may still be a stigmata that ACT is "Easier" to
    get a better score on.
    Whether that is true or not now days, I can't say. Haven't taken them in 20 years.

    UFParent
  • navarre1navarre1 Registered User Posts: 379 Member
    The other strange thing is, Florida will let you superscore the SAT and not let you superscore the ACT.
  • Jman2306Jman2306 Registered User Posts: 2,489 Senior Member
    SAT was geared towards those going into sciences, math and engineering.
    ACT was geared more towards the liberal arts.

    The ACT has a science section. The SAT doesn't. How exactly is it geared toward liberal arts?

    I think that in the future they will eventually superscore the ACT. More colleges are doing it. UF is never one of the first to catch on to anything like that.
  • zebeszebes Registered User Posts: 1,326 Senior Member
    Really? About the SAT being geared more for math and science? D's a total math/science brain. Only got a 2040 on the SAT (couldn't get her writing above a 600 as she's horrible at extemparaneous prompts). On the ACT she scored a 35 one time sitting, absolutely no studying. Perfect math score ... oh, and loved that science section, too. Found the SAT (even though she got a 700 on the cr) much more difficult for her math/science self.

    zebes
  • navarre1navarre1 Registered User Posts: 379 Member
    ^^^^^Most kids seem to score better on one test than the other. My daughter scored about the same on each test but just hated the ACT. Am I right that a 33 is much higher than a 2070?
  • zebeszebes Registered User Posts: 1,326 Senior Member
    Here's a conversion chart, one put out by ACT, I think:

    ACT-SAT Concordance

    That's why we used her ACT score for everything because it converted to a much higher SAT.

    zebes
  • TechnomancerTechnomancer Registered User Posts: 186 Junior Member
    well, my ACT doesn't qualify...SAT does...I'll still send them both... *shrug*
  • IntangibleGatorIntangibleGator Registered User Posts: 398 Member
    Have any of you guys considered that UF has high ACT standards in order deliberately to have less people qualify for Honors program?

    If Florida allowed everybody with a 31 or 32 into honors, class sizes wouldn't be able to remain as small as needed. Additionally the SAT allows for better score differentiation. A 32 could represent a score between 2100-2160, although a 2130 seems to be the agreed upon median.

    Thus, in order to ease demand pressures and assure a more consistant system, UF requires a higher ACT score when compared to the SAT.

    Just a theory. I don't want to spawn the whole SAT vs. ACT debate since they are both equally good standardized tests, just in different ways.
  • aforautumnaforautumn Registered User Posts: 1,381 Senior Member
    OP is just wondering why they dont use act/sat equivelencies. i think you more or less nailed it though: i think they're basing their numbers off of their own statistics, and not those of ACT/collegeboard.
  • Jman2306Jman2306 Registered User Posts: 2,489 Senior Member
    Well then they should raise the SAT requirements as well. Then, almighty IntangibleGator, not only would it be fair but class sizes would be even smaller! It's win-win.
  • goufgatorsgoufgators Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    OP is just wondering why they dont use act/sat equivelencies. i think you more or less nailed it though: i think they're basing their numbers off of their own statistics, and not those of ACT/collegeboard.

    That's very interesting point actually. Maybe UF created its own conversation chart based on student applications. Should be easy to do.
  • IntangibleGatorIntangibleGator Registered User Posts: 398 Member
    I agree the standards should be raised slightly.

    2100 seems like a better qualifier than the rather random 2070.

    However, Jman is obviously rather biased sense he himself missed qualifying for the honors program by 1 ACT point.
  • collegesgirlcollegesgirl Registered User Posts: 614 Member
    I believe a 32 is 99 percentile and it is a longer test with actual science section.
  • IntangibleGatorIntangibleGator Registered User Posts: 398 Member
    ACT percentiles aren't comparable to SAT percentiles.

    A 32 on the ACT is in the top 1% due to less people taking the test and lack of score differentiation.

    I would rather have a 2130, which is the top 3% of SAT scores, than a 32 anyday.
  • alwaysandforeveralwaysandforever Registered User Posts: 192 Junior Member
    Slightly off topic, but do you know how many students take the SAT vs. the ACT? Just wondering which percentile is considered more prestigious.
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