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RU Pre-Med

Jerseyyyy21Jerseyyyy21 Registered User Posts: 109 Junior Member
edited April 2011 in University of Rochester
Hi, I ultimately would like to apply to Dental school, and from what I've read, Rochester is the place to be pre-med!

Could anyone tell me a little bit more about the pre-med program at UR? How many students start out as pre-med, what are the acceptance rates into Medical/Dental schools, what is the environment (cutthroat like johns hopkins!?) etc...

Anything you can tell me would be great!

Thanks in advance!

(btw, typo in the title...meant to say "UR pre-med of course! I know its U of R!!!)
Post edited by Jerseyyyy21 on

Replies to: RU Pre-Med

  • dweinermandweinerman Registered User Posts: 93 Junior Member
    Jerseyyyy21, pre-med at UR is not cutthroat, at least based on my own experience -- I was in the pre-med program initially before I majored in psychology and history -- and the experiences of my friends. The Workshop Program encourages collaborative learning. Instead of attending a recitation where you ask questions of the TA, the Workshop Program is small (only about five or six students) and gives students prepared questions to figure out as a group.

    I'm not sure about the acceptance rates into Dental School, but approximately 75% of students in the pre-med program go onto medical school. That's way above the national average of about 48%. UR does well with placement for a variety of reasons: the medical school is across the street, so research is accessible; students can participate in Medical Emergency Response Team (MERT); and the open curriculum allows pre-med students to major in whatever they would like. UR produces some of the most well-rounded medical students in the country.
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Registered User Posts: 9,712 Senior Member
    My d is a freshman pre-med so maybe I can answer a few questions.

    The career counseling center has admission data for allopathic medicine only. The period from 2002-2007 saw about a 60% acceptance rate. (NOTE: not all of these students applied straight out of undergrad; some took a glide year to improve their applications, but that's pretty typical nowadays.)

    Students are not "screened out" by the heath profession admission committee like JHU does. Any student who requests a letter of recommendation from the committee will receive one if they meet deadlines.

    D says the freshman bio and chem classes are big lectures of around 200-350 students. (She's in a special freshman bio for kids who had 5 on their Bio AP, but there are still 200 students in the lecture. Chem has 350 in lecture. Engineers take a different chem so this class is mostly pre-meds.)

    Not cutthroat, but there are a good number of kids who aren't going to make it. She said the first exam grades for chem ranged from 1 to 155 (perfect score). You got 2 points for putting your name on the paper and 10 points for knowing who your TA was. Class material moves pretty fast and students are expected to attend lecture and recitation/homework review. No excuses. No make-up for missed work. No extra credit.

    Do-able, but you have to work hard and stay on top of the work. But even so, D has time for activities and a social life so the burden isn't crushing.
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Registered User Posts: 9,712 Senior Member
    I wanted to add that pre-med advising is good--which is very helpful when navigating the confusing path to medical/dental school.

    CCAS has information about the health profession application process and the the data about UR's success rate is here: Health Professions : Center for Academic Support
  • dabinlee9858dabinlee9858 Registered User Posts: 39 Junior Member
    hello- can anyone tell me what the CURRENT acceptance rate for med school is for rochester?
  • URgrad2009URgrad2009 Registered User Posts: 54 Junior Member
    During the 2009-2010 academic year 149 U of R students applied to Allopathic Medical Schools, and 103 were accepted to at least 1 of their choices.

    That puts last year's med school acceptance rate at 69%.

    During the 2008-2009 academic year the acceptance rate was 62%.

    These statistics are from the University of Rochester's College Center for Academic Support.

    For comparison purposes, the national average is around 44%.
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Registered User Posts: 9,712 Senior Member
    BTW, statistics that schools publish for medical school acceptances are often misleading because:

    1) some schools use the committee recommendation letters to screen out candidates they consider too weak to be accepted to med school thus artificially raising their acceptance rates

    2) some schools include both current seniors and all alumni (even those 5+ years out) who apply in any given year in their count; some count only current students

    3) some schools only count US allopathic medical school acceptances; some include students who were accepted to US MD, US DO, and foreign medical programs (which vary enormous in quality and selectivity)

    4) some schools include their BA/MD students (who have guaranteed admission to med school) in their tallies; some don't

    My point is that you cannot rely on what schools "say" about their acceptance rates because the data are not uniformly reported and there is considerable "massaging" of the data going on. (UR does not screen, but does count both current students and alumni. They count US allopathic schools only, but include their BA/MD students in their count.)

    And the national acceptance rate for applicants with 3.6+ GPA and 31 MCAT is around 70%. (IOW, 70% of applicants who had those stats were accepted into 1 or more US medical schools--MD or DO.) Most of the failed applicants on a national level have MCATs below 30.
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