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Accepted to USciences -- Class of 2019 / Pharmacy Program

TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
I was accepted to USciences last week. Does anybody have any information on the school or any first hand experience?
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Replies to: Accepted to USciences -- Class of 2019 / Pharmacy Program

  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    Hmm, I don't have any experience with it, but did you see that the last year, PharmD 6th year, costs $53,511 for just tuition? And the other years are also over $40,000? http://www.usciences.edu/controller/tuition.shtml
    Did you also apply to Temple and Thomas Jefferson in Philadelphia? Temple might give you some merit depending on stats.
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    Yeah with an ACT of 32 and GPA 3.8 Temple would give you full tuition I think.
  • TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    edited January 2015
    I did see the hefty costs. I've talked to two other people who told me that USciences is expensive. They gave me their top scholarship but it doesn't really budge the sticker that much. Early on, I thought about Temple but the safety was a heavy factor. I know that USciences is in Philly too but being in University City next door to Penn makes me feel a little safer than if I was at the north end across the river.

    And for Jefferson, I'm pretty sure they take people who have already been in college and have taken the PCAT so that wouldn't apply for me.
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    Oh I didn't know that Jefferson is a pharmacy school for the professional phase of the program only.

    Did you check into Duquesne, Wilkes? They might give you merit also and cost less.
  • TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    Duquesne didn't seem very homeschool friendly. They have a blurb on their website that says "Submit a written verification from school district stating that the student has been excused from compulsory public education for home schooling." It's kind of difficult to explain since homeschooling isn't a prevalent thing, but having the local school write a statement like that wouldn't apply for me (e.g. I've been homeschooled my whole life, don't have to be technically excused from the school in NJ but maybe it's different for PA law.)

    I'm not sure about Duquesne's merit benchmarks because they're not directly published. I just looked and it says their tuition is $35,047 for the first two years and $1,191 per credit for years 3-6...not really sure how that would translate out. Pittsburgh is very far from where I'm from and Wilkes is far north (like in the mountains of PA)

    I got a lot of mail from Wilkes though. Unfortunately, their tuition is hefty too. (*P1-P4 (pharmacy) Tuition & Fees= $34,030.) Not counting living there. Overall, I'm aware that the tuition over 6 years in pharmacy school is going to be pricey. I'll hopefully get outside scholarships and I'll have to see if the FAFSA changes anything.

    I honestly chose USciences because I was aware of it early on in my search, I know currently-working professionals who have gone there, and I liked that it was closer to home for me. I'm unsure of what I'll accept/where I'll go at the moment. I have a second acceptance to a local school for the regular admissions but I'm not sure if I got accepted to their accelerated program with a big name pharmacy school on the east coast. (Not going to mention because it'll probably reveal too much personal information) I'm just waiting for all the letters to come back and go from there.

    Thank you for being as helpful as you could though! :D
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    Sure. I mean it wouldn't hurt to apply to Duquesne and Wilkes and see what you get. My daughter said Duquesne told her their merit scholarships range from $10,000 to $20,000.

    Here is a list of Wilkes scholarships http://www.wilkes.edu/admissions/financial-aid/undergraduate-aid/types-of-aid/scholarships-wilkes/index.aspx

    Otherwise you might just do the 2 year prepharmacy at a school local to you that is more affordable and then go to pharmacy school.
  • TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    I just did the math. So it would be ~31K for me to go to Wilkes with the scholarship.

    I see now that they do rolling admissions. I'll think about it. I think Duquesne's fee waiver expired (They sent it to me around Christmas saying extended?) and I never got one from Wilkes but they kept inviting me to their Instant Decision Day.
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    It's good to have options.

    Duquesne still had spots in their pharmacy class in the early spring last year. If you got $10,000 minimum the price with R&B would be about $35,000 with $15,000 scholarship $30,000 and the top scholarship $25,000. And their scholarships are good for 5 out of the 6 years I believe. You could ask them if the fee waiver is still valid.

    Were you going to commute to UScienes, how much is your tuition with the scholarship and how many years can you get the scholarship?

    For federal aid the maximum Pell is $5,700 I think (with 0 EFC) and you can take a federal student loan for $5,500.

    Did you run any net price calculators on the websites of the schools you are interested in? That might give you an idea on the aid you might qualify for. Some will list a merit scholarship estimate.

    I just read your posts again, are you from NJ? Did you apply to Rutgers? Usually it is cheaper to go to your instate schools and you might qualify for a state grant in addition to federal aid.

    There is no going around borrowing money for pharmacy school, at least in the last two professional years, but if you can keep loans to a minimum then that is the goal. If you get a substantial scholarship for 4 or 5 years that definitely helps.
  • TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    I can get the scholarship over 4 years. It basically pays for room and board. I had plans to stay on campus. I don't think it would be financially possible to rent in Philly or be feasible to commute from home (1 hour drive). So ~31-34K with the scholarship but tuition isn't flat based on the professional years. The figure I just gave is based off of undergrad/pre-professional years.

    I ran some NPC's. They varied for each school but they ranged that I could get 14K in merit and up. Yes, I'm from NJ. Didn't apply to Rutgers though. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give me much merit (because their benchmarks are weird. 1950 SAT/29 ACT gets around 4K and 2300/35 is full ride. No in between.)

    Ultimately, keeping the loans in undergrad to a minimum is my goal. I would like to get scholarships and I don't want to put my parents through my debt either. I don't expect them to pay but we never fully talked about it. My choice on where I go will have financial as a big factor.
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    Well you need to find a school that you can definitely afford. Merit opportunities are almost over at least for the schools I know and that are closer to you. And have a 2+4 or 6 yr pharmacy program. Temple, Wilkes and Duquesne might still be options at this time but time is running out and you won't get financial aid award letters until FAFSA is processed and closer to spring.
  • TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    I have been recently accepted to a local school that gave me almost a full ride (minus 5K). This is the same place where I said I don't know if I've been accepted into their accelerated pharmacy program because the decision is released on a later date. I think I might take it if I get in, but if I don't get in, I still might go there because it's close, affordable, and has a great science/biochem program for me. It just really depends until all the offers come back and I visit the places again.

    I'll consider Wilkes and Duquesne. Ironically, they sent me some email this morning. Duquesne still has the fee waiver; Wilkes is still inviting me to the Instant Decision Day. If you could choose between two, who is better?
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 10,627 Senior Member
    That is great if you have a good local option and such a generous scholarship.

    I don't have first hand knowledge of the two schools and their pharmacy program. We considered them because they were in PA and had good merit chance. Maybe you can tour them and ask questions once you are accepted and have the offers all in.

    I didn't know you had an affordable option, you might not need to apply to anymore schools, but since Duquesne app is free you could if you wanted to.
  • BigBear1BigBear1 Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    I would choose USP over Wilkes.

    What is this "Instant Decision Day" at Wilkes ?
  • BigBear1BigBear1 Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    According to USciences, the 2014-15 tuition for pharmacy is as follows:

    FY 2014-2015 Tuition and Fee Schedule:
    Tuition
    Semester
    Year
    Full-time
    Undergraduate
    $17,168 $34,336
    Professional years
    18,885 37,770
    6th Year PharmD
    --- 53,511
    http://www.usciences.edu/controller/tuition.shtml

    I think year 1-5 are "acceptable" but the 6th year is kind of high. But if USP offers better quality, lower student faculty ratio (10:1), reputation (the first & finest college of pharmacy according to their website & other students quoting same), smaller class sizes, 3 blocks from Ivy League UPenn (?), and other factors etc, then I think it's tolerable ($53,511, 6th yr) though I prefer a lower tuition in yr 6, something like $37,770.
  • TheDidacticTheDidactic Registered User Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    edited January 2015
    Instant Decision Day is this day at Wilkes you register to attend. You then have to bring a copy of your transcript and your SAT/ACT scores (I'm pretty sure that's it) and give them over at the beginning of the day. By the end of the day, after you've visited the campus and basically had an open house experience, the college tells you if you're accepted or not.

    @BigBear1‌ The tuition isn't totally bad for years 1-5 but 6 is just a killer. I do think that USP may have that reputation and small size I would like though. I also like the fact that I wouldn't have to do anything extra to go to a pharmacy program because I'm already in. (aka NO PCAT!) :D
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