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UT Austin class of c/o 2022 admissions

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  • gettingschooledgettingschooled 1917 replies34 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @Dearspy I would be surprised if they changed too dramatically after spending years defending their methodology in court. Where did you read that they changed?
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  • DearspyDearspy 38 replies1 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @gettingschooled I may be wrong but I felt that if they claim to do a holistic review this would kind of be the exact opposite?
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  • gettingschooledgettingschooled 1917 replies34 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    In various places, they have said the PAI component is what makes the process holistic. Aside from adjustments to AI for recentering of SAT or changing for things like not requiring writing, etc. it seems like changing too much from the process they spent millions of dollars successfully defending in court would expose them to new challenges in court.
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  • Chipotlegurl28Chipotlegurl28 76 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Did any o/s or international students receive their decisions yet??
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  • IAmDanIAmDan 6 replies0 threadsRegistered User New Member
    @Chipotlegurl28 I'm OOS applying to BHP (submitted 10/31), haven't heard anything yet.
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  • antwaineantwaine 80 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Chipotlegurl28 I am OOS applying to CNS (submitted my app 10/29), have not been informed yet... I check my portal at least 3 times a day
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  • Bader316Bader316 68 replies9 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    This morning I was talking to a friend, whose D got into McComb last year. The interesting part was that she was not in 7%; did not apply for BHP and got admission within a month in the first wave before ThanksGiving. Few remarkable things that could have helped her is the summer program in a top university and a leadership in student council. UT seems to look for key words in app and picks for priority review.
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  • Mills6Mills6 156 replies4 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @ Bader316 Interesting......any idea what her test scores were? Also, what was her class rank and is she at a highly competitive school?
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  • Bader316Bader316 68 replies9 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Mills6 I did not ask for exact rank and scores etc. She was in 10% rank. Among other things, she was busy all year tutoring math/english to young kids.
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  • Mills6Mills6 156 replies4 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    That AI formula can still be excellent if test scores are high enough..... and 10% isn't very much below 7% plugging into that formula. The more I look at information the more I think their methodology makes sense. They certainly have to figure out some way to equalize the schools and test scores from a very competitive high school are usually higher even when class rank is lower.
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  • Bader316Bader316 68 replies9 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Mills6, Yes she passed from a competitive Plano school. All I know she was a good student, but not top performing. I think the UT method of holistic review frustrates many top students, and this could be the reason why BBA class profile is only 3.46 average GPA and 1324 average SAT.
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  • antwaineantwaine 80 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Hope I get accepted (OOS Student)

    Cumulative GPA: 4.26
    Rank: 10/653
    Major: Biology (CNS)
    Volunteer Hours: 300 (Worked at my local hospital)
    SAT: 1310
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  • Mills6Mills6 156 replies4 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Bader316 yes, it is frustrating..... but class rank being so important is frustrating also. I would say test scores and GPA are so low because UT has to take kids with weaker stats who are in the top 7% at schools that aren't as competitive personally. Schools are very different and choosing classes starting in middle school to make sure your rank is high enough at some schools is just sad. The three highest ranked students at the school I taught at last year all avoided the hardest class(AP Chem) and ones (art, band, etc) they were interested in for their rank. ( Number one made a 32 on ACT and number 2 made a 31.) Some people are even choosing schools that aren't as difficult for the almighty class rank. Just being in the top 7% does not necessarily make you the best student for UT. My daughter is only top 10% but she has made all A's and A+ (Two lowest grades were 92's) in all the top classes at her school. However, she has chosen to be a leader and extremely involved in other areas (student government, art, sports, volunteering, job, etc) so has gotten more 96's than 99's throughout. So, although she tested very well (34 ACT....of course the top 15-20% of her school made 34+) ) and made all A's, she isn't "top performing." I think (hope!) UT's system will allow someone like that to get in. Glad I am not having to choose.....just too many strong candidates!
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  • Bader316Bader316 68 replies9 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Mills6, So far I know, students take Alg and Spanish I in Middle school to have enough time in high school to complete advance math courses. It is not gaming the system rather complete college level courses and save money later, and most importantly show the strength in academics like Calc AB, BC. Even some try to game the system, 7% rule should be maintained at UT and not put bunch of them into Auto-admit general studies group, CAP, PACE.

    If GPA is low because of less competitive school, why would SAT falls to 1324 in AI calculation? My take is that UT is overriding AI with PAI or holistic evaluation. Other than essay, there is no numerical value for each component of PAI, so evaluation could be personal and biased.
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  • Bader316Bader316 68 replies9 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    A 6% drop in rank reduces AI by 0.2
    A 100 drop in SAT-M reduces AI by .2

    So theoretically, a student with 93 percentile rank with 1600 SAT == a student with 99 percentile rank, 1500 SAT with Math 700.

    This clearly can not explain why SAT falls to 1324 unless significant number of people are admitted outside 7% rank.

    A student with 93 percentile from a less competitive school has to maintain a decent SAT to be competitive on AI scale. So SAT should not fall to average 1324 because of less competitive school.
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  • Mom1997Mom1997 69 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    edited November 2017
    Does anyone know if it is true that decisions are released on the third Thurs or Fri in Nov, Dec & Jan?
    edited November 2017
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  • funtimes123funtimes123 87 replies3 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Has anyone been accepted to McCombs yet?
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  • gettingschooledgettingschooled 1917 replies34 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @Mom1997 Historically, yes on Nov and Dec but more frequently in January than once it seems (although biggest group is the day) and the final group third week of February. No one knows if that applies this year until people start posting here later in the week. November is usually very light though.

    @funtimes123 No one has posted yet so guessing no. Those who got interviews in BHP thread have not heard either and they usually hear early.
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  • Mom1997Mom1997 69 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
  • Mills6Mills6 156 replies4 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @ Bader316 I think it is the 1% students with 1200 SATs that lower the SAT average (GPA's are done on so many different scales that I have no idea how they say what an average GPA is!) They still end up with a decent enough AI that if they have good EC they can sometimes get into top programs. I think it is fair to consider personal achievement though. The kids in the top 7% at my public high school get into UT but usually cannot get into engineering or business because their tests scores bring their A1 down too much and their writing isn't great either which hurts PAI. Frankly, they would probably be in over their heads at UT as the courses out here aren't very rigorous and few of them have ever done more than an hour of homework.

    Your kid may not have gamed the system but tons do. My son was given the option of a GREAT thinking class offered to honors kids in 7th grade. 4 kids signed up for it because they had to do it instead of Spanish or Algebra which would affect class rank.....in 7th grade. The high school out here doesn't even have a math class past AP AC calc for them to take junior and senior year! They could still take one of them in 7th and then take both in 8th grade so finish all their possible classes. The class did not make. I also assure you that the numbers 1, 2, and 3 at school I taught at last year did not take AP Chemistry because they were worried they would get a B. Kids take a study hall to boost GPA, they save their electives and speech for senior year, they don't do band or art even though they love it,....I could go on and on.....

    My point is that I do not think it makes sense to choose a kid in the top 6% with merely decent test scores but weak EC for a top program over a kid in the top 8% with great scores and great EC.....Especially if one attended a more rigorous school where the kid at 8% could have worked tons harder and be better prepared than the kid at 6%.

    But, what I think doesn't matters all! This waiting is awful!
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