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UT Austin -- Is It Really That Hard

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Replies to: UT Austin -- Is It Really That Hard

  • commando70commando70 Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    UT is one of the few "Public Ivy" institutions... contrary to the common belief, UT is a very hard school. Intro classes tend to weed out many students... classes in all schools are rigorous... the engineering school at UT is ranked 9th in the nation and the school plans to be in the top 3-5 schools (competing against MIT and CalTec) its a great school with renowned faculty and hard courses...
  • pierrechnpierrechn - Posts: 1,505 Senior Member
    college problem only as hard as you allow it to be, study more pass more
  • jr1038jr1038 Registered User Posts: 109 Junior Member
    college problem only as hard as you allow it to be, study more pass more

    Indeed, that's probably true at U of H.
  • VailsMomVailsMom Registered User Posts: 266 Junior Member
    Wow. So the only reason people don't succeed in college is because they don't study enough? That is an amazing inference.
  • pierrechnpierrechn - Posts: 1,505 Senior Member
    lol typo but i meant College is probably only as hard as you allow it to be, study more pass more

    and vail? when you study you pass right? or does studying not help at all?

    really?
  • VailsMomVailsMom Registered User Posts: 266 Junior Member
    How do you get "studying does not help at all" from what I posted? Also, I don't think a person can assume "when you study, you pass".

    I didn't say studying doesn't help. It would be foolish not to study. But it is a major oversimplification to extrapolate that if you study something you will pass it. One should try ones best, but that is not always enough. This generalization has perhaps been true for you so far, but is not necessarily true for every student and not necessarily true even for the most gifted of students given certain subject matter.

    Have you not known people in high school who work as hard as they can and still only get Cs and Ds? People who sit in an algebra class and simply cannot grasp the concepts? Kids and adults who struggle to read, even with tutors? Not everyone is blessed with innate ability.
  • pierrechnpierrechn - Posts: 1,505 Senior Member
    @vail

    but people like that usually show problems at a young age

    you cant even pass with a D in Texas, just putting that out their

    how can u go to a regular college(4year university) without knowing how to read or some algebra?

    i dont think the "students" your referring to are traditional college students
  • VailsMomVailsMom Registered User Posts: 266 Junior Member
    @pierrechn:

    Again, you oversimplify. I was mentioning struggling HS students because I knew you had been exposed to them. I was trying to illustrate a concept. Even bright college students will struggle sometimes. Some of the most gifted physicians/mathematicians/engineers/you-name-it I know have struggled with some subject in college or even graduate education. And I know brilliant professionals who cannot reliably balance a checkbook.

    And you are wrong that "people like that usually show problems at a young age". There are incredibly bright, gifted people who have learning disabilities which are sometimes not diagnosed until many years into their education. And there are perfectly normal people who are excellent at some things and abysmal at others.
  • pierrechnpierrechn - Posts: 1,505 Senior Member
    well put it like this, most college students did decent in HS so they can probably succeed in college

    and as far as "people like that usually show problems at a young age" i meant it in this way, most people that cant read well, probably couldnt read well when they were younger and as far as math most people are good at it until around 9th grade
  • LonghornDanLonghornDan Registered User Posts: 532 Member
    Pierre, you are not in college how would you know that just studying gets you by?

    To a certain extent this is true, most students are capable of passing most classes as long as they work at it. But, not everyone has the same capabilities. Some people just can't grasp concepts. Everyone is good at different things, some are great when it comes to logic or math, some are great writers, and some can tell you all about the periodic table. Everyone has different strong suits and weaknesses, and for some, studying isn't enough to pass a class. Are you trying to tell me that my friend who struggled to a C in college algebra could pass Calculus just by studying? I doubt it. There is nothing wrong with that, she just isn't a math orientated person.

    You just can't make blanket comments like that. Especially when you have not taken a college course.
  • pierrechnpierrechn - Posts: 1,505 Senior Member
    my point exactly, math has never been her thing/ so she will get the same grades in math that she got in HS which were probably Cs

    and im assuming college is only as hard as you make it, that applies to HS 2
  • LonghornDanLonghornDan Registered User Posts: 532 Member
    I am just trying to say, saying college is only as hard as you make it is oversimplifying things a bit. For the most part this is true, but there are situations where it doesn't matter how hard you work, you will never master it.
  • pierrechnpierrechn - Posts: 1,505 Senior Member
    well technically you dont have to master something to pass (if a D or C is all you can get then its good enough)
  • navyarfnavyarf - Posts: 366 Member
    STEM classes, hard.

    Liberal Arts/Business/Comm/Soft classes, for the most part, not so hard.

    Believe it or not, some people aren't good at anything. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but it's true. And some people are good at almost everything.
  • MaineLonghornMaineLonghorn Super Moderator Posts: 35,775 Super Moderator
    you cant even pass with a D in Texas, just putting that out their


    Pierre, yet another grammar lesson: It's "there," not "their." You really have a hard time with those two words. The moderator asked that I correct misinformation, so that's what I'll do.
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