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Chance an Asian for Harvard!

cheesedudecheesedude Registered User Posts: 55 Junior Member
edited May 2012 in What Are My Chances?
Hi everyone, I'm applying to several schools including top universities like Harvard, Yale, Stanford and many more. Please take the time to change me, I'll chance back!!!

Senior course load: all IB/AP classes, rigorous school and courseload

SAT I: 2200

Math I-800
Math II-750

AP Human Geography-5
AP Calculus AB-5
AP Macroeconomics-4
AP Statistics-4
AP U.S. History-4
AP English-4

Class Rank: 1/150
Top 1% Valedictorian(number 1 in my school, all A's)
4.0 unweighted and around 7.0 weighted

Leadership Positions:
-Class President
-Breakdance Club President
-Honor Council Leader
-IB Ambassador
-Mu Alpha Theta Public Relations Committee Leader and club organizer
-Science National Honor Society Historian
-Math Competition captain 6 years
-School dance crew leader
-Prom court(Represent class)

-Math Bowl, Math Counts, Mu Alpha Theta, Math League, AMC, M3 Challenge
-Tennis, Varsity, League
-Dance, Breakdance club at school
-School leadership and improvement
-Math and Education Service project

-Math competition-1st place twice, 6th place several times, school placed, recent 5th place team and several other awards
-3rd place in school for AMC8 and 1st place in school for AMC10
-Began tutoring program at school-help kids with math for service
-Began a math and education service program
-Published a book on math education
-Online math helper, answer 100s of questions
-Class presidency-organize events, pep rallies, etc.
-Art-artwork featured in local high school magazine, 3 other websites, restaurants, businesses, hospital
-Graphic designer for clubs, t-shirts, etc.
-Tennis- varisty team as a freshman, team placed 1st in league
-Learned to breakdance against parent's will, started successful and large club at school where we teach people how to dance, formed a crew and perform at pep rallies
-Music-several small piano awards, taught myself how to play harmonica and clarinet
-Honor roll(all A's) for the past 7 years
-National Honor, Math, Science and Spanish society

Excellent teacher recommendations
Amazing essay about dance with hook(s)

Please chance me! Will chance back!
Post edited by cheesedude on

Replies to: Chance an Asian for Harvard!

  • LOLSAURUSLOLSAURUS Registered User Posts: 135 Junior Member
    Your sat is on the lower side (ESP for an Asian) and the fact that you took 2 math sat iis is bad. But your rank and school mark, as well as your fantastic ECs, make you a competitive candidate. Harvard and the other top ivies are crapshoots. But I think you have good chances. Chance back please!
  • sandiego4866sandiego4866 Registered User Posts: 148 Junior Member
    If your HS has sent grads to ivies in the past that is a good indication.

    Being realistic is recognizing that you are the valedictorian at a small school yet 'only' achieved a SAT score of 2200, which is great, you are in the 98%. On the other hand there are around 20,000 others with similar or greater 2011 SAT composite score. http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/SAT-Percentile-Ranks-Composite-CR-M-W-2011.pdf

    Good luck. My suggestion is if you love dance and want that to be a major/minor in college, finding a dance program that wants can been a great hook with your stellar academics. Applying without the 'tip' from the dance department could dilute the value of your special interest. Remember the admission office isn't qualified to figure out if you would make a contribution to the college community as a dancer, only the dance department is. If they don't know who you are, well you are a nobody to them.
  • SkilledFoolSkilledFool Registered User Posts: 55 Junior Member
    I'd say you're a pretty good candidate for the schools you're applying to.
    Even with great apps like this, you can never be too sure with those schools.
    Your SAT M+CR composite might be a bit low compared to that of other applicants.
    However, your outstanding school record will definitely make you stand out.
    Just try to write great essays. Good luck.

    Chance me http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1247348-chance-me-please.html

    Thanks =)
  • WaverlyWaverly Registered User Posts: 2,669 Senior Member
    I'd recommend taking the SAT again, but honestly, chances would not be above 25% with a 2400. Without an outstanding, national level EC, chances are minuscule for any unhooked student.
  • freddy1185freddy1185 Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    Your ECs are a little bland and your scores are a little low. Try and spice them up in your application if you can.

    Care to answer my question? http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1247527-how-badly-does-hurt-my-chances-top-schools.html
  • Lily12Lily12 Registered User Posts: 21 New Member
    Honestly, your CR score might kill you. I'd recommend Princeton Review. After that, you have a decent chance!

    Chance back?
  • HappyNerdHappyNerd Registered User Posts: 60 Junior Member
    You're definitely qualified. Apply and hope for the best.
  • dblazerdblazer Registered User Posts: 2,187 Senior Member
    Yeah, the CR is a killer, but everything else looks good. Interesting things like the break dancing and math education make you stand out. Expect the worst (esp. with Harvard where a majority of applicants who get in have a hook of some sort and spots are reserved for major national award winners), but hope for the best. But you look pretty genuine...it seems like you do things because you love to, not for college. Hopefully that shined through your essays. If not Harvard, some other great school. Good Luck.
  • cheesedudecheesedude Registered User Posts: 55 Junior Member

    thanks, I know CR is my worst, but I'm hoping my dance essay will stand out!

    Also, isn't it true that people without national rewards or recognition make it to top schools like Harvard as well?

    I've competed in a national math competition as the leader, if that helps
  • dblazerdblazer Registered User Posts: 2,187 Senior Member
    Oh sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you needed major national awards to have a shot at harvard, I was just suggesting that there are so many groups such as those with legacy, or come from a feeder school, or are a URM, or firstgen, or are low-income, or have a geographic hook, or have a have high accomplishment (national awards) such as USAMO, Intel, etc. that not as many spots are left for an unhooked public school asian, (wait, do you go to public school?) I'm just suggesting that from that standpoint, odds are clearly against you. But again your application isn't totally like that of a typical asian, making you stand out a little and I think you have some good stories to tell.
  • cheesedudecheesedude Registered User Posts: 55 Junior Member
    I go to a public school with a rigorous but small IB program, last year we had 3+ ivy leaguers and other top schools (good considering our small class)

    just for the lolz, how can I make my application less Asian, in the good/unique way?
  • hell0w0rldhell0w0rld Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
    Your grades & ECs are great, but like everyone else said, the SAT might be a killer. Also, I don't think Harvard accepts both math SAT subject tests for their subject test requirement:

    Harvard College Admissions § Applying: Requirements

    You'll probably have to take another SAT subject test. Good luck though!
  • hpyscmhpyscm Registered User Posts: 899 Member
    harvard is tough, I think your ec's are a little spread out to be competitive. I mean, what have you done that is so spectacular that admissions is going to be like, "we want this kid!" They are no doubt good, but there isn't anything there that would really make you stand out. good luck!
  • WaverlyWaverly Registered User Posts: 2,669 Senior Member
    If you want to change your odds, get another 120 points on the CR section. But honestly, it's highly unlikely to change them enough to be admitted.

    Breakdance might Be enough if you were a professional, but a school club is unlikely to be noted.
  • dblazerdblazer Registered User Posts: 2,187 Senior Member
    ^ I disagree, starting a successful break dancing club not only shows passion, but is a unique talent that can distinguish the applicant from the rest of the applicant pool.
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