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Chance this asian girl for Princeton UPenn, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Yale, Harvard, and UVA


Replies to: Chance this asian girl for Princeton UPenn, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Yale, Harvard, and UVA

  • nad501nad501 Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    I technically did have a guardian like 2 houses down the street from me (so it could still legally be ok). But yes I did live alone (did everything on my own: food, grocery shopping, laundry, bills, etc.).
  • preppedparentpreppedparent Registered User Posts: 2,251 Senior Member
    Are you applying through Questbridge or some other feeder route to the ivies and other elite colleges?
  • doorrealthedoorrealthe Registered User Posts: 557 Member
    It is far more important to have a smaller, more concrete list of strong ECs that are tied together than a list that hits 5 different areas. Your stats are a little on the low side and being asian from the Bay Area will not help. You need to make those essays amazing
  • theloniusmonktheloniusmonk Registered User Posts: 849 Member
    You're ECs do need some tightening up, focus on the ones related to your major and interests, and any where you were elected (that carries more weight than appointed). Getting a scholarship to a summer program esp for Stanford (which I'm a little familiar with) is impressive, these programs usually accept most people who apply and give no financial aid. As someone posted above, if you can explain that or add it to your app, it would be very good. If you're raising your sister by yourself and keeping the grades you are in a competitive high school in the bay area, you're a very unique applicant, Asian or not lol. Apply to Princeton and one of your public safeties - UVA or UM early and based on that figure out where to apply RD. If by chance Penn or Hopkins becomes your first choice, then apply there ED. However, you're a strong applicant and I wouldn't apply anywhere ED to keep your options open. Not sure on Princeton's interview policy but try and get an in so you can explain your circumstances. Your test scores are going to be tricky, as you don't want to be low enough that they just put it in the reject pile, so aim for the average or middle of the 25-75 percentile range.

    This would be the one concern for me - how are you affording a private school in the bay area given your family circumstances, unless you're getting financial aid?
  • AshleyMisAwesomeAshleyMisAwesome Registered User Posts: 146 Junior Member
    edited June 11
    If you are not applying through Questbridge and are attending a private school in the Bay Area, your background story will need some validation from school counselors. Your story, if it were to help, needs to be verifiable.It will not make up for less than average stats. A difficult background is fairly common in many students who apply- and some students cannot even afford computers or lunch or books. So, don't dwell on your family difficulties because the application right before you might have been someone who is in a worse situation. Instead, focus on how you prevailed in the face of adverse circumstances! For example, the today show featured this black Compton guy, who has an incarcerated father and no money and lives in a neighborhood prevalent with gun violence. He still managed to travel hours to go to school everyday and be the valedictorian with a 33 ACT and strong leadership positions throughout his school (a top private school where he was receiving full financial aid). THAT is a success story and a compelling applicant to the Ivy League.

    You need to expand on what you mean by being independent and explain how your able to afford a top private school. Your hook cannot be "I'm not the typical Asian applicant," because there are many Asian applicants who do not fall into the admission stereotype.

    Good luck and I wish you the best in your college aspirations.
  • tripledouble2000tripledouble2000 Registered User Posts: 239 Junior Member
    GOOD QUESTION. There are SO many students who mistakenly think that being well-rounded beats having a spike in one area and they are unfortunately wrong. So to answer your question, it is better to have a small list of EC's that directly relate to your intended major. Not only does this show your commitment to these few ECs (which by simple math shows you spend more time on these few ECs rather than dabbling in many) and also displays your interest in a certain area. Hope this helped! :)

    Could you chance me back here? http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1995754-chance-me-low-gpa-rank-cornell-rice-wash-u-ucla-etc-p1.html
  • lhw1998lhw1998 Registered User Posts: 483 Member
    Apply through QuestBridge and you're a shoe-in. You have an incredible story to tell
  • student30294student30294 Registered User Posts: 120 Junior Member
    It is really incredible that you have accomplished all of that given your family difficulties. One question I had though is how do you afford a top 25 private high school if your family faces immense financial hardship?
  • slynn471slynn471 Registered User Posts: 2 New Member
    Ok so your stats look great but I have some essay advice
    1. Do NOT call your dad crazy. You have every right in the world to be upset with him because he was abusive whether or not he had a mental illness and could not control it (it seems like he didn't try to get better, and even if he did, you have a right to be upset by whatever he did). I am not about to invalidate you there and go on some spiel about how you need to forgive him because you do not. However, calling him "crazy" in the application sounds insensitive and dehumanizing. You can indicate the distress it caused you and what a terrible person he is without dehumanizing him (there are several people who abuse drugs and do not have a mental disorder, and several people who do not have a mental disorder but are abusive. If he does not really have a mental disorder and you're calling him "crazy" then at this point you're just throwing around words).

    2. I kind of get what you're trying to say with the "not your typical Asian" thing, but you might want to say it differently. Perhaps you mean to say that when you think of "Asian" you are less likely to think of someone who is low income because of the model minority archetype. However, even that is wrong sometimes due to a variety of factors. And if this is not what you mean, I have to wonder what you mean. Like, I have a friend who is Chinese American and graduated from our state's math and science academy. She struggles with depression and anxiety and people who do not know this will think she's a jerk, a slacker, (or "crazy".......and it's not like she comes off this way. It's just something people think upon hearing the names of mental illnesses). She hasn't been through what you have to my knowledge, but the biological factors did not play out in her favor, and several other factors occurred.

    I also know someone who is Chinese, was raised in a competitive society, and was thought of as less intelligent because he had a stutter. He is not less intelligent and he made it into med school in America, which took more effort than most people. Not to mention my boyfriend (who is Asian under some definitions) who was on welfare early on in his life and another acquaintance of mine who is Filipina American, struggles with bipolar disorder. and said she didn't understand me until she was emotionally abused for a bit over a year.

    And if I got to know anyone well enough, very few people fit that archetype because, like most standards of perfection (and you probably know a similar concept due to your body positivity club), it is a very narrow box that very few people actually fit into because there are so many ways to deviate. So if I did not get your reasoning at the beginning of my #2 advice, what exactly is "the typical Asian"?

    Good luck on your apps and it looks like you're doing a lot of cool things that I hope you continue regardless of what college you get into!
  • glittervineglittervine Registered User Posts: 210 Junior Member
    No one has mentioned this, but your proposed safeties are NOT safeties (UMich and Emory at the least). You need to look for a school where you are guaranteed or practically guaranteed admission, one that you can definitely afford.
  • nynycasino1234nynycasino1234 Registered User Posts: 243 Junior Member
    edited July 17
    @nad501 excellent chances in all of colleges if guidance counselor verify these facts in his or her recommendations.
  • nad501nad501 Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    Hey i know this is super late and months later, but I hear you. I am actually on a full scholarship at my private high school, and all my teachers who are writing my recommendations are aware of my hardship and my responsibility, and they will be able to verify (on the administrative aspect). Living alone since I was 14 was definitely not easy. It was isolating, alienating, stressful, overwhelming, and exhausting. I developed bipolar disorder and struggled a lot with myself because I never had the stability other families had. On top of that, supporting myself financially as well as maintaining good grades, playing 4 varsity sports, and leading many extracurriculars on top of that was an incredible challenge. In my personal statement however, I stated these hardships, but I also turned it around, and ended it with me talking about how my isolation made me realize my appreciation and gratitude for companionship, community, and connection.
  • sattutsattut Registered User Posts: 682 Member
    The GPA is probably good, considering the school. However, you can't go by the acceptances from your school, as you won't be evaluated the same way. The ECs are fairly good. Need to know the SAT and SAT II scores to chance. However, will probably get in somewhere good but not HYP.
  • sattutsattut Registered User Posts: 682 Member
    What is your approximate class rank? You give a good idea of the level of the school, but I am not sure what 3.75 means. With that information and standardized test scores, I could give you an idea of what level of school you might be able to get into.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 62,840 Senior Member
    Are you applying to UCs or CSUs (since you live in California)?

    All of the schools in your subject line are reach for everyone.

    Have you checked on financial aid issues? Unlike UCs and CSUs that use only the FAFSA form and use only the finances of the parent you live with the most (or gave the most financial support if you lived with neither one more than the other), the schools on your list also use the CSS Profile and both parents' finances.
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