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Yale sets new early app record

Dave_BerryDave_Berry CC Admissions Expert Posts: 2,332 Senior Member
Yale received a record high number of early applications this year, marking a steep rise in its single-choice early action application total for the second consecutive year.

In this admissions cycle, 5,733 students applied early action to the Yale class of 2022, a 13 percent increase from last year, according to the Office of Undergraduate Admissions. Last year, the number was 5,086, and, in the three previous years the number of applications consistently hovered around 4,700. The number of early applications received this year surpassed the previous all-time high of 5,557 in 2008. Still, Director of Outreach and Communications Mark Dunn said Yale’s outreach strategy is focused on “improving the quality and diversity” of the applicant pool, rather than increasing the overall number of applicants.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2017/11/15/yale-sets-new-early-app-record/
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Replies to: Yale sets new early app record

  • hplvr17hplvr17 Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    How do you think this will affect the acceptance rate?
  • MaybeHarvard2022MaybeHarvard2022 Registered User Posts: 377 Member
    it will obviously go down
  • Desiree2Desiree2 Registered User Posts: 276 Junior Member
    edited November 18
    unless they simply choose to admit more of their incoming class with rea. @MaybeHarvard2022 @hplvr17

    or they might take the middle ground, increase rea admit by 7% (app increase of 13%), because more rea app they get could mean they get less rd apps
  • mohammadmohd18mohammadmohd18 Registered User Posts: 490 Member
    ^That might be an attractive option, because REA apps tend to help out the yield rate.
  • nicknick567nicknick567 Registered User Posts: 166 Junior Member
    Reading this article was difficult. I'm an REA applicant, and the last thing I wanted to see was a record number of apps. Hoping for a deferral :(
  • DeepBlue86DeepBlue86 Registered User Posts: 725 Member
    Yale admitted 871 in the early round last year (the first year with a class expanded by about 200 because of the two new colleges), and I would guess they'll admit around the same number this year. Why? Because I think they project a yield of 80-90% on SCEA admits, and historically they seem to have wanted to avoid admitting in the early round more than half of those who eventually enroll. Class size is now targeted at 1,550 - you do the math. If I'm right, the early admit rate will decline from 17.1% to 15.2%, in line with H (14.5% last year) and P (15.4% last year).
  • sbballersbballer Registered User Posts: 447 Member
    Yale has accelerated its marketing efforts..." including mailing campaigns to high-achieving low-income students" most likely due to its lagging relative selectivity.

    while the article is couched in terms of improved outreach to under represented groups.. it's obvious Yale has stepped up their marketing efforts to ALL groups.... and I'm sure U of Chicago's pace setting success in this area has something to do with it.

    make no mistake every school markets like crazy.. Princeton boosted it's marketing efforts last year... Harvard does a ton of marketing.. it's all for selectivity appearances.

    The admissions arms race is getting more and more competitive between the colleges.
  • DeepBlue86DeepBlue86 Registered User Posts: 725 Member
    ^^^If selectivity is so important to Yale, why did they increase their class size by 15%, a move that, all things equal, would make perceived selectivity fall significantly? And still, they had a yield last year of 71%, close to their highest ever - which doesn't look like "lagging selectivity" to me.
    it's obvious Yale has stepped up their marketing efforts to ALL groups
    Do you have any evidence of this? The simpler explanation for the rise in early apps is that the market adjusted because the increase in class size caused the odds briefly to look a little better than the peer schools.

    While Yale is frankly proud to have been stepping up its outreach to lower-income/first-gens (as you can tell from the increasing number of Questbridge matches), as far as marketing to higher-SES/prep school kids is concerned, I can cite some real-time anecdotal evidence to suggest that Princeton, Stanford and Yale send comparable amounts of mail (not much), Harvard's a bit higher and UChicago is off the charts.
  • PureShoresPureShores Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    I understand that REA can improve yield rates, but why is this important?
  • BKSquaredBKSquared Registered User Posts: 485 Member
    There are 2 primary reasons why selective schools like high yield rates. One is bragging rights/rankings. If you have a high yield rate, it implies that the school is more desirable over others and is factored into some of the ranking formulas. This is where it is argued that ED is being used as a form of manipulation to inflate yield thereby increasing perceptions of desirability and boosting rankings (see UChicago). EA on the other hand does not mandate matriculation and the higher yield is more representative of that school being a true first choice.

    The more institutionally sound reason for wanting high yield is that the selective schools want to assemble "ideal" classes which have so many "round" kids, so many "spikey" kids of varying interests and talents, so many artistic/musical kids, so many STEM kids, so many URMs, so many legacies, etc... It's easier to assemble a tailored class when it is more predictable that a high percentage of students admitted will matriculate. In the ideal world, AO's probably don't mind that the yield of accepted students be slightly lower than the desired class size so that they can fill out the holes from the waitlist.
  • Wilson98Wilson98 Registered User Posts: 247 Junior Member
    I suspect that one reason for increases in SCEA applications (as well as ED at other schools) is simply more applicants thinking they aren't going to get in RD, as those RD admit rates get lower (and often much lower than SCEA or ED numbers). Marketing may have some effect, but I don't know how many lower-income students are going to get a mailing from Yale and then apply there SCEA.

    I also would guess that the increase in class size was made to take advantage of resources and to produce more Yale grads. If Yale wanted to do it for those reasons, a possible small effect on selectivity wouldn't change their minds.
  • IlluminatiIsRealIlluminatiIsReal Registered User Posts: 81 Junior Member
    Is there such a statistic for Princeton Early Action 2022?
  • hzhao2004hzhao2004 Registered User Posts: 498 Member
    My feeling is that the primary reason for the increase is the two more residential colleges. They give people some hope, although probably false hope.
  • notmonicaaanotmonicaaa Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    same ughh!! the decision is gonna come out so soon I'm so worried... Good luck to the both of us!
  • tripledouble2000tripledouble2000 Registered User Posts: 258 Junior Member
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