Harvard vs Yale for Engineering

<p>Both universities established schools of engineering and applied science relatively recently. Yale engineering offers more programs at both the undergrad and graduate level, but Harvard’s is ranked higher, at least according to US news. Not much is publicized about either, probably because they’re relatively new.</p>

<p>Where would you go and why?</p>

<p>I work in one and my advice is to look for specific things that interest you and see who has a stronger field ie robotics or bioengineering. Harvard has recently grown it’s department but all faculty there have to fund research so the primary focus is not always under grad teaching. If you are really engineering bound why not Stanford or UC Berkley if you want a multi focused school - otherwise MIT, Cal Tech etc are all ranked higher that H or Y</p>

<p>what are undergraduate computer science programs like at both yale and harvard?</p>

<p>can’t harvard students take courses at mit?</p>

<p>^Yes, you can cross-register at MIT if you attend Harvard.</p>

<p>However, Stanford is ranked higher than both Harvard and Yale for computer science. Are you applying there?</p>

<p>I would go to Cornell because engineering at Cornell is better than at
Yale and Harvard.</p>

<p>neither h or y. lol.</p>

<p>cornell. mit. caltech. stanford.</p>

<p>Clearly there are institutions with better/more renowned engineering programs, but speaking solely for Harvard and Yale, what is the relative quality of their SEAS schools?</p>

<p>Sooner or later, someone’s going to come in and say this, so I might as well be the first:</p>

<p>Get into both first, and THEN decide. Statistically speaking, getting into neither is the most probable outcome. You’re lucky if you get into one, and at that point, the choice is made for you.</p>

<p>^Oh, but I think it’s a good idea to get a feel for the right type of schools. OP has already received some (brief) statements that essentially convey that neither H nor Y is at the top of the engineering field, though they are still excellent for a variety of studies, including engineering.</p>

<p>@nikkor50mm
That’s helpful of you. I’m currently attending one as an undergrad. I’m wondering about graduate school though. Let’s pretend I know there are better places to go for engineering.</p>

<p>If you want to figure out whether Harvard or Yale is right for you, then figure out what type of research you would like to do and/or what faculty member you would like to work for.</p>

<p>That’s your graduate life right there (life in the lab) — and who you work for is going to matter far more than any ranking or opinion (given that you are considering top graduate programs).</p>

<p>Both schools (overall) are very highly ranked in the sciences and engineering — and have stellar reputations. Our students (I work at Harvard) go on to do the same types of things that grad students at Cornell, MIT, and Stanford do (really — I can give you statistics).</p>

<p>Most important: Talk to the students that <em>actually</em> go to the programs. While I think message boards like this can be useful, going to the source is likely to be far more helpful and accurate.</p>

<p>And if you want stats …</p>

<p>[Facts</a> & History ? Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences](<a href=“http://www.seas.harvard.edu/our-school/facts-history]Facts”>http://www.seas.harvard.edu/our-school/facts-history)</p>

<p>The website is apparently mistaken, and has no input from Harvard faculty. To base on Science Watch to rank impact is quite laughable. They should get into the original data from Reuter-Thomson ISI web knowledge link to do an analysis themselves. The followings are the production and impact of mechanical engineering papers of several major US engineering schools plus Harvard in the last 5 years:</p>

<p>Harvard: papers=12, citation/year=11.2, H-index=5, average citation/item=4.67
MIT: papers=148, citation/year=130.6, H-index=14, average citation/item=4.41
Stanford: papers=120, citation/year=109.4, H-index=12, average citation/item=4.56
UCB: papers=164, citation/year=104.4, H-index=11, average citation/item=3.18
UI: papers=330, citation/year=204, H-index=14, average citation/item=3.09
UMich: papers=340, citation/year=196.2, H-index=14, average citation/item=2.43</p>

<p>The gap between Harvard and other elite engineering school is quite large both in production (papers) and impact (citation/year and H-index). If the website ranks the citation/papers, it would be quite useless and misleading because some of the non-engineering schools, such as dental schools or medical schools (which generally have 2-3 mechanical engineering papers in 5 years) would rank highly due to collaboration.</p>

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<p>I never would’ve guessed.</p>

<p>Engineering? Of course, MIT all the way! Why go to Harvard or Yale for engineering?</p>

Now, Harvard is probably top 5 in the world for Computer Science…

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