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Sophomore Math Levels

dtl42dtl42 Posts: 274Registered User Junior Member
edited February 2008 in High School Life
CC being a very intelligent environment, I was curious about how many sophomores (2010) are in Calculus BC or higher? Anyone know how many in the nation? Are your BC classes the first course in calculus that you've had? And finally what are you learning in them now?

I'm in Calculus II, not quite BC because we follow an actual college curriculum and cover much more than the BC curriculum. We just finished series/sequences.

I was curious because a lot of BC classes seem to be students' first courses in Calculus and I think this seems kind of dumb, because they lack some topics when they go into Multi-Variable. Also how good are you guys in math contests and competitions? I'm guessing many USAMO qualifiers.

Thanks
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  • Squirrel_MonkeySquirrel_Monkey Posts: 764Registered User Member
    I'm only in Algebra II Honors; I don't think anyone at my school has ever done Calculus in 10th grade. There's not really much acceleration allowed at the school. I'm also curious about how good sophomores on CC are at math contests and competitions. I qualified for the AIME as a freshman, but that's about the best that anyone at my school has done; it doesn't even tell most students about the AMC (only contest it offers).
  • Missy JoMissy Jo Posts: 308Registered User Junior Member
    BC was my first year of Calculus as a sophomore and I did manage a 5 on the test. I didn't do math contests/competitions because of the time commitment, so I wouldn't have been able to answer that question, but I'm curious as to how BC calculus as a first course in calculus is "dumb." What do you think is lacking going into multivariable? You seem to have some misconceptions about BC calculus classes and how they are run - for example, some schools teach it as a one or two year course, with either AB one year and BC the next, or AB+BC in one year (still called BC Calculus, not AB or ABC). You seem to be assuming that the sophomores that take BC Calculus have no AB teachings whatsoever. Many AP teachers here in southern California teach their AB and AB+BC calculus at the same rate for the first quarter, then second quarter, their AB+BC class is taught at a faster rate, and by the end of the semester, they'll have finished the AB curriculum and started the BC curriculum. The AB+BC class finishes the BC material at the same time as the second year BC class sometime around the end of the third quarter/beginning of fourth, and after that, they spend the remainder of the time reviewing for the AP test with practice problems and such. Think of the BC Curriculum as AB + a few more concepts, not only as those few more concepts.

    Edit: after reading your post, I just thought I'd tell you that series and sequences is an example of a BC concept not covered in an AB only class.
  • brillarbrillar Posts: 1,089Registered User Senior Member
    At our school, Calc BC is like Calc AB+BC in one year. It's more accelerated, but it covers everything in Calc I and II.

    It's incredibly difficult for anyone to take Calc so early on in our school- I only know of one, who graduated a couple years ago. A couple last year took it in their junior year and moved on to a local college for their senior year math...

    I'd think that a lot of schools wouldn't be prepared to provide for students taking Calc BC/II during thier sophomore year, so it must be relatively rare.
  • aigiqinfaigiqinf Posts: 4,006Registered User Senior Member
    Well, I will be next year when I'm a sophomore.

    I believe you mean AB would not prepare people for multi-variable.
  • -Serendipity--Serendipity- Posts: 314Registered User Member
    There are ten sophs and one freshman in BC at my school this year.

    As for competitions, I don't think school math level is a completely accurate judge of how well you do competitively. Last year, we had three qualifiers (two freshmen and one soph) for USAMO. One freshman and the soph were in precal (now BC), and the other freshman was in algebra II (now precal).
  • romanigypsyeyesromanigypsyeyes Posts: 22,898Registered User Senior Member
    There was a sophomore in BC at my school. (1 out of over 6,000) He was in precalc freshman year, skipped AB and went to BC.
  • faithinhimfaithinhim Posts: 132Registered User Junior Member
    Oh wow, at my school you can't take Calculus until senior year. Sophomores have the choice between Geometry and Algebra II.
  • swim2daendswim2daend Posts: 2,497Registered User Senior Member
    I'm in Calculus 2 also. I plan to take the BC exam tho (I'm a sophomore)
  • NarcissaNarcissa Posts: 3,935- Senior Member
    lol my friend took it in 8th grade
  • freedomfighterxyfreedomfighterxy Posts: 254Registered User Junior Member
    My school (300 a class) had 6 Soph my year take BC and 1 Frosh take BC and about 20 as juniors. Then about 200 senior year. (almost everyone takes it at my school)
  • NarcissaNarcissa Posts: 3,935- Senior Member
    lol my school has 1 class (~20) of BC. everyone gets a 5 yay, because of selectivity bias
  • apostle365apostle365 Posts: 131- Junior Member
    I'm just wondering-

    It's my dream to go to MIT or Princeton for physics. Obviously you need to go through the Calculus sequence to be considered a competitive applicant, but does it matter if you haven't taken Multi-variable calculus or other higher-level mathematics? Do alot of people get accepted with only Calculus BC under their belts? Does anyone know any reliable statistics of the math level of the admitted students to MIT?
  • NarcissaNarcissa Posts: 3,935- Senior Member
    ^um, i doubt like 1% of MIT applicants have taken post-calculus math.
  • someguy1337someguy1337 Posts: 349Registered User Member
    I'm a senior this year and there's 4 sophomores taking Calc BC. As for some of my senior friends, they have completed waaaay beyond Calculus. Some have taken Calculus III, Combinatorics, Differential Equations, Linear Algebra, etc. Looks like math never ends huh?
  • jcsmoothjcsmooth Posts: 234Registered User Junior Member
    A couple years ago a Soph tried to take BC in my school and dropped out quickly, I'm a junior in it now, skipped AB from pre-cal. I'm just excited cause next year I'll get to take calc 2/3 through georgia tech, that's the most advanced math course my school offers.
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