CC being a very intelligent environment, I was curious about how many sophomores (2010) are in Calculus BC or higher? Anyone know how many in the nation? Are your BC classes the first course in calculus that you've had? And finally what are you learning in them now?
I'm in Calculus II, not quite BC because we follow an actual college curriculum and cover much more than the BC curriculum. We just finished series/sequences.
I was curious because a lot of BC classes seem to be students' first courses in Calculus and I think this seems kind of dumb, because they lack some topics when they go into Multi-Variable. Also how good are you guys in math contests and competitions? I'm guessing many USAMO qualifiers.
I'm only in Algebra II Honors; I don't think anyone at my school has ever done Calculus in 10th grade. There's not really much acceleration allowed at the school. I'm also curious about how good sophomores on CC are at math contests and competitions. I qualified for the AIME as a freshman, but that's about the best that anyone at my school has done; it doesn't even tell most students about the AMC (only contest it offers).
BC was my first year of Calculus as a sophomore and I did manage a 5 on the test. I didn't do math contests/competitions because of the time commitment, so I wouldn't have been able to answer that question, but I'm curious as to how BC calculus as a first course in calculus is "dumb." What do you think is lacking going into multivariable? You seem to have some misconceptions about BC calculus classes and how they are run - for example, some schools teach it as a one or two year course, with either AB one year and BC the next, or AB+BC in one year (still called BC Calculus, not AB or ABC). You seem to be assuming that the sophomores that take BC Calculus have no AB teachings whatsoever. Many AP teachers here in southern California teach their AB and AB+BC calculus at the same rate for the first quarter, then second quarter, their AB+BC class is taught at a faster rate, and by the end of the semester, they'll have finished the AB curriculum and started the BC curriculum. The AB+BC class finishes the BC material at the same time as the second year BC class sometime around the end of the third quarter/beginning of fourth, and after that, they spend the remainder of the time reviewing for the AP test with practice problems and such. Think of the BC Curriculum as AB + a few more concepts, not only as those few more concepts.
Edit: after reading your post, I just thought I'd tell you that series and sequences is an example of a BC concept not covered in an AB only class.
At our school, Calc BC is like Calc AB+BC in one year. It's more accelerated, but it covers everything in Calc I and II.
It's incredibly difficult for anyone to take Calc so early on in our school- I only know of one, who graduated a couple years ago. A couple last year took it in their junior year and moved on to a local college for their senior year math...
I'd think that a lot of schools wouldn't be prepared to provide for students taking Calc BC/II during thier sophomore year, so it must be relatively rare.
There are ten sophs and one freshman in BC at my school this year.
As for competitions, I don't think school math level is a completely accurate judge of how well you do competitively. Last year, we had three qualifiers (two freshmen and one soph) for USAMO. One freshman and the soph were in precal (now BC), and the other freshman was in algebra II (now precal).
My school (300 a class) had 6 Soph my year take BC and 1 Frosh take BC and about 20 as juniors. Then about 200 senior year. (almost everyone takes it at my school)
It's my dream to go to MIT or Princeton for physics. Obviously you need to go through the Calculus sequence to be considered a competitive applicant, but does it matter if you haven't taken Multi-variable calculus or other higher-level mathematics? Do alot of people get accepted with only Calculus BC under their belts? Does anyone know any reliable statistics of the math level of the admitted students to MIT?
I'm a senior this year and there's 4 sophomores taking Calc BC. As for some of my senior friends, they have completed waaaay beyond Calculus. Some have taken Calculus III, Combinatorics, Differential Equations, Linear Algebra, etc. Looks like math never ends huh?
A couple years ago a Soph tried to take BC in my school and dropped out quickly, I'm a junior in it now, skipped AB from pre-cal. I'm just excited cause next year I'll get to take calc 2/3 through georgia tech, that's the most advanced math course my school offers.
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Edit: after reading your post, I just thought I'd tell you that series and sequences is an example of a BC concept not covered in an AB only class.
It's incredibly difficult for anyone to take Calc so early on in our school- I only know of one, who graduated a couple years ago. A couple last year took it in their junior year and moved on to a local college for their senior year math...
I'd think that a lot of schools wouldn't be prepared to provide for students taking Calc BC/II during thier sophomore year, so it must be relatively rare.
I believe you mean AB would not prepare people for multi-variable.
As for competitions, I don't think school math level is a completely accurate judge of how well you do competitively. Last year, we had three qualifiers (two freshmen and one soph) for USAMO. One freshman and the soph were in precal (now BC), and the other freshman was in algebra II (now precal).
It's my dream to go to MIT or Princeton for physics. Obviously you need to go through the Calculus sequence to be considered a competitive applicant, but does it matter if you haven't taken Multi-variable calculus or other higher-level mathematics? Do alot of people get accepted with only Calculus BC under their belts? Does anyone know any reliable statistics of the math level of the admitted students to MIT?