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HandsAcrossTime
Posts: **230**Registered User Junior Member

This is not a homework help post. I'm trying to self-study for AP Calc BC.

I am having trouble figuring out when to use the disk method vs. the shell method. I get that, in the disk, the representative rectangle is perpendicular to the axis of revolution, and in the shell it is parallel. However, I don't know how to draw the rectangle - horizontal or vertical? A friend said that it is vertical if f(x) = y (so x is in terms of y). But I found examples contrary to that in my calculus book, so I'm not sure if that is right (or if I'm misunderstanding the examples in the book).

Please help.

How do I know which to use?

I am having trouble figuring out when to use the disk method vs. the shell method. I get that, in the disk, the representative rectangle is perpendicular to the axis of revolution, and in the shell it is parallel. However, I don't know how to draw the rectangle - horizontal or vertical? A friend said that it is vertical if f(x) = y (so x is in terms of y). But I found examples contrary to that in my calculus book, so I'm not sure if that is right (or if I'm misunderstanding the examples in the book).

Please help.

How do I know which to use?

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## Replies to: Disc/Shell Methods

3,570Registered User Senior MemberIt's hard to explain without a picture, but if you're using the disk method you draw the rectangle such that when you rotate it about the axis of revolution you get a disk (think records from the 1960s), and if you're using the shell method you draw the rectangle such that when you rotate it about the axis of revolution you get a shell (really skinny cylinder).

That wasn't very useful, was it :)

523Registered User Member33Registered User Junior MemberHmm, I hope all of that made sense/is correct. We did volumes of revolution a few chapters ago, so I'm not 100% sure anymore. :P

230Registered User Junior MemberI never realized I could really use both. I guess, when presented with a problem, I'll think about which will be easier. And, MathGirl, thanks. If given the option, I will use the disc method for x-axis rotations. Thanks. :]

855Registered User MemberThe key to figuring out which method to use is by picturing it in your mind. Suppose you had a sine function from [0, pi] revolved around the x-axis. To find the area below the curve, you would divide the area into differential, vertical rectangles going from 0 to pi. Well now, you're not finding the area; you're finding the volume. So, just as the area is revolved around the x-axis to form a solid with a volume, why not revolve each differential rectangle around to form a circle (a disc), and then sum up all the circles to get the volume of the solid? You see where I'm going here? Each circle would be

perpendicularto the x-axis and you'd be summing them up in the x-direction.Now let's think about it a different way. Instead of dividing the area up into differential, vertical rectangles, why not divide it up into differential horizontal rectangles, and then summing the horizontal rectangles from the absolute max of the function in said interval, down to the x axis? But hey, we're finding volume... so we revolve said rectangles around. Now, can you picture what would happen? You'd get concentric shells,

parallelto the x-axis. And to find the volume you'd have to find of the surface area of each shell, and sum them up in the y-direction.Sorta a long post, but I've always found it easier to visualize this to conceptualize why things are, rather than straight memorization. But yes, shells are used parallel to the axis of revolution, and discs are used perpendicular to the axis of revolution.