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FAQ: Foreign Language

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Replies to: FAQ: Foreign Language

  • BEsMamaBEsMama Registered User Posts: 15 Junior Member
    Daughter picking classes for 9th grade. Strong in STEM, less so in humanities and foreign language. How much will she get dinged in continuing in basic as opposed to advanced language? A number of classmates in advanced are learning language as their second or third language. She feels more comfortable in the basic class, though seems as if she has given up on ever doing well. Some of her cousins are @ NESCAC schools and she talks about wanting to attend one of them. Will the basic language class ding her?
  • BingBong284BingBong284 Registered User Posts: 104 Junior Member
    @BEsMama As long as she does well in them then the regular classes will likely not be held against her, especially if she indeed excels at STEM classes.
  • MisnagedMisnaged Registered User Posts: 18 Junior Member
    edited March 7
    I was born and raised in a country that has multiple official languages, but I am a native speaker of English. English is my first and only language.

    I am taking one of my country's "official" languages as my FL requirement for IGETC. My counselor told me there is a chance the UCs I applied to will not give me credit for them because they will assume I am a native speaker of that language taking an elementary language course for easy credit.

    Has anyone heard of this?

    *I applied for transfer from a California Community College.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 72,213 Senior Member
    IGETC for transferring from a community college to UC only cares whether you have the specified level of proficiency in a non-English language, regardless of how acquired (whether formal course work to a specified level, or native/heritage proficiency proven though testing).

    http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/transfer/advising/igetc/index.html
  • MisnagedMisnaged Registered User Posts: 18 Junior Member
    edited March 18
    Right, that part I know; he said it would count for IGETC regardless.

    However, his concern was that the UC might think I am a native speaker of a language (when I am not) and thus not give me credit for the course in terms of units needed to transfer. In other words, instead of having said, 99 units, I would only have 89 (and thus be 1 short for junior transfer).

    Basically, the concern isn't with IGETC -- I'm good either way for that -- but whether or not UC will count the foreign language class I've taken among my transferable units (e.g., 89 vs 99, because the two courses are worth 5 units each).
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 72,213 Senior Member
    Nothing on UC websites suggests that what you are worrying about is an issue. But you can ask UC directly if you want UC's answer.
  • HogeDotyHogeDoty Registered User Posts: 29 Junior Member
    Good advice
  • FairilinaFairilina Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    Hi! I took french as my chosen language to study but realized it was not my thing. I took another year at the recommendation of those around me but I am still struggling heavily. At this rate, it will heavily damage my GPA and I will have to drop a class I am interested in. Therefore, I decided not to take french 3 next year. How will that affect colleges' thoughts about me?
  • samson1samson1 Registered User Posts: 15 Junior Member
    Agree with bloxjacket - easier to complete in HS
  • SculptorDadSculptorDad Registered User Posts: 2,318 Senior Member
    My sophomore daughter has been taking Foreign Language level 2 & 3. She wants my opinion of if she can skip Spanish in her Junior year and take Foreign Language level 4 in her Senior, or better yet, just stop taking it altogether. She is fine with getting a good grade, but wants to focus more on other subjects.

    I am not sure what to say, therefore I am asking for an advice.

    In her 11th grade, she needs to take following 3 courses for 3 periods: English, History, Math
    She also strongly wants to take 2 Science courses for 3 units/periods.

    That makes 5 courses in 6 periods total. She can add Foreign Language level 4 if it will matter for selective college admission, but she would really want to avoid overworking.

    For what it is worth, she is likely to have a STEM focused application, and has been taking "many" AP & College STEM courses.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 72,213 Senior Member
    Skipping a year may result in having to catch up when taking the next level after the skipped year, unless she maintains practice during the skipped year. Examples would be talking in Spanish to others (heritage speakers are often not hard to find in many schools these days) and reading Spanish language media like https://news.google.com/news/headlines?ned=es_us&hl=es-419&gl=US .

    In terms of stopping at level 3, some colleges may prefer to see level 4, although it may not be a hard requirement. Some colleges also have foreign language graduation requirements that are higher than high school level 3.
  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 Registered User Posts: 3,360 Senior Member
    My daughter was signed up to take a dual credit Spanish IV class for her junior year and we had an unexpected scheduling conflict because there was only one section of the advanced math class being offered. I have a STEM kid too so the math class was the priority. Much to my chagrin, she had to drop Spanish (thankfully her Spanish III class had also been a dual credit college course) but I always heard she needed 4 years for the highly selective colleges. She also had to drop concert choir that year. She ended up subbing in AP Stats and the engineering series offered in her school. Those engineering courses ended up opening the doors to engineering awards from the school, the community, and a regional university, amazing LOR from that teacher, the opportunity to be part of trial engineering III project course which led to patent discussion, and then opened up room in her schedule senior year to triple up in science. She targeted STEM focused universities and had a very successful admissions process. She wasn't gunning for the super elite schools though.
  • bz1119bz1119 Registered User Posts: 19 Junior Member
    Anyone with experience of Arabic in the application process to colleges? Any specific programs/ colleges you guys found that were interesting?
  • lbflbf Registered User Posts: 251 Junior Member
    @SculptorDad my DS who just finished his freshman year of college took Spanish 3 as a freshman and Spanish 4 as a sophomore and decided not to take any more language. His HS had a graduation requirement of 2 years or level 3 so he met that requirement. His college has a language requirement and he tested into a high level of Spanish in college and in the fall will take a 200 level Spanish class not having had Spanish for 3 years which I think will prove challenging. If your DC knows some colleges they are interested in look at the websites and see if they have language requirements for applying. Some LAC require 4 years of language in HS.
  • ThundercrashboltThundercrashbolt Registered User Posts: 71 Junior Member
    Would taking two years of two languages count as two years or four years of Foreign language? Does this look worse than taking three years of a single language or be an application breaker?
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