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Tell Me If My College List Is Reasonable Please

catcow22catcow22 3 replies1 threads New Member
Can someone tell me what schools should be reach, target, etc. I'm class of 2022.

Here's my list as of right now:

Yale University
Princeton University
Brown University
Columbia University
Barnard College **Dream School
New York University
Carnegie Mellon University
Duke University
University of North Carolina
Johns Hopkins University
Georgetown University
University of Chicago
University of Michigan
University of California: Berkeley
University of California: L.A.
Wellesley College
University of Florida
Northeastern University
University of Maryland
Boston University

My Info:

I am a white, (bisexual), middle class, jewish female from South Florida. I go to a competitive public high school. My parents are separated and I have one sibling who goes to the University of Florida.

Stats:

GPA (Unweighted) - 4.0
GPA (Weighted) - 5.3
SAT (Practice - I'm taking the real test this month) - 1440

APs, AICE, and Scores:

Freshman Year - Human Geography (4), AICE General Paper (C)
Sophomore Year - World History: Modern (4), Psychology (4), Calculus AB (2 lol), European History (4), AS English Language (not scored yet)
Junior Year - Environmental Science, Computer Science Principles, Statistics, English Language Composition, United States History, Dual Enrolling Freeing the Actor's Voice (S1) and Fundamentals of Music (S2)
Senior Year - Literature, Government and Macroeconomics, Computer Science A, AICE Sociology, Dual Enrollment

ECs:

Yearbook - Staff Writer (9th), Head Writer (10th), Section Editor (11th), Editor in Chief (12th)
International Thespians Society - Treasurer
School Musicals - Ensemble (9th), Lead (10th)
YMCA Teen Leaders Club - Executive Board (300+ Community Service Hours)
Stagecraft Club - Treasurer
Psychology Honor Society
National Honor Society

Future Goals:

Attend a Pre-College Program (depending on $$$)
Student Direct a Musical
Executive Board in Psychology Honor Society
Executive Board in National Honor Society
Start either an Eco Club or a Political Awareness Club (haven't decided which one yet)
Work Part-Time

Intended Major: Psychology
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 30971 replies472 threads Forum Champion
    College budget?
    UC GPA’s? https://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/

    You realize that UCLA and UCB will be full pay at $ 65K/year? No financial aid for OOS students. These schools would be a Reach.
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  • catcow22catcow22 3 replies1 threads New Member
    Oh that's gonna be a no from me then.
    Unweighted GPA: 4.00
    Weighted GPA: 4.89
    Weighted and Capped GPA: 4.44
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  • PublisherPublisher 11862 replies161 threads Senior Member
    edited August 11
    Really depends upon one's definition of "reasonable"

    If the term "reasonable" refers to chances of admission, then several schools seem unreasonable based on your AP scores and on your practice SAT score of 1440.

    Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Duke, Chicago, and CMU (Calc AB AP score of 2 raises concerns unless applying as an acting / theater major) seem somewhat unreasonable reaches.

    As you intend to major in psychology, your psych AP score of 4 doesn't help your chances for admission to Yale, Columbia, Duke or Chicago.

    As a non-resident of north Carolina, UNC-Chapel Hill is a reach school for you.
    edited August 11
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  • austinmshauriaustinmshauri 10154 replies392 threads Senior Member
    My parents are separated and I have one sibling who goes to the University of Florida.

    This is a challenge because Net Price Calculators may not be accurate for you. And the net cost when one child is in school can be much higher than it is when two are in school, so make sure wherever you go will be affordable after your sister graduates.

    Do you know your EFC and budget? What's your safety school?
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  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 5805 replies94 threads Senior Member
    edited August 11
    My parents are separated and I have one sibling who goes to the University of Florida.

    This is a challenge because Net Price Calculators may not be accurate for you. And the net cost when one child is in school can be much higher than it is when two are in school, so make sure wherever you go will be affordable after your sister graduates.

    Do you know your EFC and budget? What's your safety school?

    Agree with all of this.

    Get an EFC estimate here, use 2019 income for your custodial parent and you, as well as current assets: https://fafsa.ed.gov/spa/fafsa4c/?locale=en_US#/landing

    Then run Princeton's NPC using 2019 income and current assets for BOTH parents and you, and let us know this cost estimate: https://admission.princeton.edu/cost-aid/financial-aid-estimator

    Run the NPC both with and without a sibling in college.
    The NPC may not be accurate if you don't put in both parents' financial info, one or both of the parents own a business, or if they own real estate beyond a primary home.


    What can/will your parents pay for college per year? Hopefully you have an affordable safety school in Florida on your list.


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  • catcow22catcow22 3 replies1 threads New Member
    My EFC is 23675
    Princeton's NPC said $15,800 which is affordable for my family
    University of Florida is my safety and Bright Futures will cover my tuition there
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  • TomSrOfBostonTomSrOfBoston 15972 replies1068 threads Senior Member
    With your GPA and optional SAT/ACT scores this upcoming cycle McGill in Montreal would be a safety. But a climate shock for a Floridian.
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  • mommyrocksmommyrocks 1222 replies14 threads Senior Member
    I think you could easily cut your list in half if you think hard about what kind of place you want to be for the four years of your undergraduate degree (disregarding current pandemic issues about being on campus). Some of the universities on your list are in the heart of major cities, while others are more rural or in traditional college towns. What kind of place most appeals to you? They're also in places across the country with vastly different climates and cultures. Really give this some thought. If NYC is your dream destination, e.g., there are enough universities within NYC and nearby to make up your entire application list, ensuring you wind up where you want to be. Likewise with colleges in Florida, if you want to stay in your home state, where tuition will be more reasonable at the public universities.

    The Ivies and other top universities will look for top test scores as well as international or national recognition, which I am not seeing in your ECs and awards list. I recommend narrowing the top universities down to a couple of your favorites, and focusing on what is more in reach. I would look at admission safeties and financial safeties primarily, and toss in some dream universities as well. Take a look at the psychology programs at each place, and think about what attracts you to that university specifically. Often a university will publish admissions data for specific majors or departments within the university, and that can give you an idea of how competitive you are. Otherwise compare your stats with the overall admissions data. The higher you rank compared to the types of students they admit, the better your chances.
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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 2763 replies47 threads Senior Member
    catcow22 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what schools should be reach, target, etc.

    Grades would obviously put you on a competitive basis everywhere. In terms of SAT, if your actual score meets your 1440 practice score

    Big reach - median SAT around 1500 or higher - tough to make up this gap with GPA/EC/etc.
    Yale University
    Princeton University
    Duke University
    University of Chicago
    Columbia University
    Johns Hopkins University
    Carnegie Mellon University

    Reach - median SAT 1450 or higher, but GPA could make it possible
    Brown University
    Georgetown University
    Northeastern University

    Match - metrics are competitive (SAT low to mid 1400s). Even students with competitive metrics may have low admission percentages at some of these, so "match" doesn't equal "likely admit".
    Barnard College
    New York University
    University of Michigan
    University of California: Berkeley
    University of California: L.A.
    Wellesley College
    Boston University

    Semi-safety - metrics are strong in comparison, but I don't know if any are a true safety.
    University of North Carolina
    University of Florida
    University of Maryland
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  • chmcnmchmcnm 858 replies8 threads Member
    If you want to become a psychologist then an advanced degree is a must. Taking on any debt would be a bad idea. Maintaining a high undergrad GPA for grad school would be ideal.
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  • DadTwoGirlsDadTwoGirls 6798 replies2 threads Senior Member
    "McGill in Montreal would be a safety"

    Acceptance wise, yes. It is also very good for psychology. In terms of finances, I do not think that McGill is a safety with an EFC of US$23,675.

    I am concerned about the number of reaches on the list. This will make it hard to do a good job on each application.

    "University of Florida is my safety and Bright Futures will cover my tuition there"

    This is a very good university. I am usually more comfortable with two safeties but if you really know that you will get accepted at UF and that it will be affordable, it is a great choice even if everything else either is a reject or is not affordable.

    With separated parents I share the concern expressed above that the NPCs might not be accurate. I am concerned that you have many reaches, and a few schools were acceptance is very likely but affordability is hard to know.

    Of course with one great safety, the rest becomes less stressful, or at least less critical.

    Perhaps you should run the NPCs, throw out schools that the NPC suggests will be unaffordable, pick 5 or 6 (at most 10) reaches that are your top choices, and apply to them plus UF, and maybe one other in-state public university.

    To answer your question, I would put Northeastern and BU as matches or probable for admission, but highly unknown and possibly reaches in terms of affordability. UF looks very highly likely to me. I do not know about UNC and UMD, other than "not safeties" since you are out of state. The rest to me at least seem to range from low reaches to high reaches.
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  • SouthoftheriverSouthoftheriver 42 replies1 threads Junior Member
    OP, did you take a foreign language? For how long? I also don’t see those core sciences that would be expected for top-tier schools (chemistry, physics, bio and an advanced version of one of these). How does your course rigor match up to the top students at your school? Is your counselor prepared to say you have taken the “most rigorous” coursework?
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  • catcow22catcow22 3 replies1 threads New Member
    I took Spanish for two years then I decided to drop. I am taking the most rigorous courses that my school offers other than Calc BC and Chemistry/Bio
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  • SouthoftheriverSouthoftheriver 42 replies1 threads Junior Member
    I quickly went to Harvard’s website and see they want 4 years of a foreign language and bio, chem, physics and an advanced science. You should do the same fact-gathering for your list. It will help you determine whether you are a fit.
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  • austinmshauriaustinmshauri 10154 replies392 threads Senior Member
    I took Spanish for two years then I decided to drop. I am taking the most rigorous courses that my school offers other than Calc BC and Chemistry/Bio

    If you only took 2 years of foreign language and haven't had 4 years each of math and science (including bio, chem, and physics) then your guidance counselor can't check the "most rigorous" box. I think that will make a lot of your reaches out of your reach no matter what your GPA and test scores are. I think you need 4 years of the core courses (Eng, math, history, science, and foreign language) to be competitive.

    What courses have you taken so far? What are you planning to take for your junior and senior year?
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