Georgia794 replies0 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 4New Member
Going to med school outside of the US (assuming you want to practice there later) is a very bad idea. Although it may be cheaper and you can attend after high school there are many disadvantages which far outweigh the advantages. NO.1 The quality of the your education will be much worse. It may be easier while you are studying but after finishing your degree you will not be in a good position to pass the US board exams. If you do manage to pass it is not very likely you will get residency there. That means you could spend 6 or 7 years (in some countries a one year internship is required) in a foreign country only to never be able to practice medicine in the US. Of course you might know somebody who studied abroad and successfully returned to the states, this is the exception not the rule The odds are against you.
GALENO4 replies0 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 4New Member
Be aware that 25% of all USA trained and licence MD are IMG ,some are heads of academic departments,residency programs,distinguished reserchers and most are excellent medical practitioners.and believe me patients do not ask what medical school you graduated from ,they want to know that you care for them,they want to be treated with respect ..I HAVE NEVER BEING ASK IN THE LAST 30 YEARS WHAT MED SCHOOL I ATTENDED (U S GRAD)OR WHERE I COMPLETED MY RESIDENCE..some caribbean med schools are excellent and their students will excell in this country....
GALENO4 replies0 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 4New Member
You should consider adding the American Uiversity in Antigua to the list,They have a state of art modern campus ,is a US model medical med school with reputable training hospital in the in the states (also a Vet School affiliated wit V Tech
GALENO4 replies0 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 4New Member
With your excellent credentials why bother going to a Uk Med school,finish strong at Duke and apply to the top US med schools then to the top US recidency programs ...
pemphredo32 replies0 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 32Junior Member
Georgie79 "The quality of the your education will be much worse. It may be easier while you are studying but after finishing your degree you will not be in a good position to pass the US board exams."
You have proof of this? This suggests doctors in the UK and other European countries are not as well trained as those in the US? I doubt that. The NHS may not be as well resourced as private hospitals across all fields but doctors in the UK study Medicine for 6 years through undergaduate and graduate studies.They do not study an unrelated subject for their first degree. I'm not sure how long students spend in Medical school in the States but I don't think its that long?
Medical Boards in all countries have to ensure competence for practicing doctors. We do the same here in the UK and also test language skills etc. I can understand why countries set extra exams for overseas students, but I would think an Oxbridge medical degree would set you in good stead for any international exams.
Now residency is another thing...since thats more dependent on individual interviews and the personal prejudices of those doing the selection - as with any job application.
minty19943 replies2 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 5New Member
hey there i am an US citizen and i will be a senior this year. I am afriad that i will not get in to UC's over herre so my other option is to go and study in India. i want to become a doctor and beoming a doctor is tough here, plus it takes a long procees like about 13 years or more, whereas in India it is only 5 or 6 years, then i can come back to America and study surgery or something else. i am afraid that if i do go and study in India, and then when i caome back to America i wont be accepted here in any medical programs. i dont want to go and waist my life studying in another country and not be able to have a future in the medical feild. What should i do? Will i still be able to come and work here after i study in India? i know there will be some test i would have to take here but i am afraid that i wont be able to becasue if i study in India.
spacejet9992 replies1 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 3New Member
I am interested too , ther is lot of negitive talk on the net .. then why is there every doctor son or daughter they are sending to India for their medicine. if they all are able to become doctors here , why not the anyone .
What are we missing..?
Another thingis that I have heard that their kds are doing 1 year interships in US.. how is this possible, Are Indian institutes allowig them to do 1 yr residency in US.. then are they at advatnage in getting the residency..
311710rvmt87 replies10 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 97Junior Member
To clarify a point raised: When I meant non-EU candidates at Oxford of Cambridge, I meant candidates without a European baccalaureate degree who are EU residents. Being an EU citizen residing in the USA doesn't make you an EU candidate, since you lack the high school degree and the residency. How open European medical universities are to non-European candidates differs. Some may require a high level of function in the native language or make foreign candidates pay fees. The quality of European universities varies, too. I'm not sure if Bulgaria is exactly on par with Cambridge...
Hi. Since the last post in this thread was back in December, I'm not sure whether I should continue here or start a new thread.....
Well, now that I've gotten this far, I guess I'll continue. My daughter is a dual national (Spain/U.S.) and we have been thinking that maybe she would be better off going to med school in Spain simply because it's so much cheaper than in the States. Language would not be a barrier for her, and we realize that it's a six year degree and that Spaniards start their medical studies right after high school.
Does anyone in this forum know exactly how a B.A. degree in Neuroscience would be treated for the purpose of Spanish med school admissions? Years ago, when I still lived in Spain, you had to have each individual subject "recognized" (convalidada) and then you could apply for acceptance as an undergraduate with partial credit toward your Spanish undergraduate degree. I believe it's still the same nowadays, but I don't know 1) whether my daughter's high school diploma might be easier to "convalidar" and 2) whether she would have to do "Selectividad" having already begun her university studies in America. I would also like to know 3) if her high school or college g.p.a. would be taken into consideration, 4) how hard it would be to get one of the spots reserved for people from foreign educational systems, and 5) whether her Spanish nationality would give her the upper hand over other foreign applicants.
I would be extremely grateful for any insights you might be able to give me into the precise process for someone with American high school and college studies to get into med school in Spain.
Rose12233 replies5 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 38Junior Member
what about the opposite. i mean say a doctor goes to college, med school, and does thier residency in the US and then later decides they want to, idk, practice medicine in austrailia or UK for their career? would this be possible
bluecollar62 replies4 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 66Junior Member
Hey, in Brasil we have about 6 years of schooling (pre-med and med combined). Would it make sense to complete the first 5 years and then transfer to an American med school and finish your schooling there? Would it increase your chances for reputable residencies? Also, if you did transfer like I suggested, before your final year, where would you end up in Med School? Would you start in the first year? Would you have to apply to the med-school and do the MCAT?
If anyone knows anything about anyone who started off in Brasil and ended in the US please let me know!
I don't know for sure but you almost certainly couldn't "transfer" to an american med school. You would have to apply like any other international applicant which means you would need a bachelor's degree from an AMCAS accredited school.
ConfusedSenior211 replies0 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 1New Member
I am also confused on this whole topic. I am considering a career in the medical field. My dilemma is how hard is it to be excepted into a European school? I am wanting to study in Prague, but I don't know if it would be easier to start in an American University and then attempt a transfer, or just directly apply to a University? Would it still require all the entry exams as well?
WayOutWestMom10060 replies200 discussionsRegistered UserPosts: 10,260Senior Member
Generally it is easier to apply directly to the school you wish to attend since European schools directly admit high school seniors to 6 year MBBS programs.
You cannot "transfer" from an American college into foreign medical school because the curricula are different and the educational process is structured differently. You can apply for the medical portion of the program after completing an US undergrad. In that case, most schools will require a minimum GPA and minimum MCAT for admission. Some will require you to demonstrate fluency in the local language.
If you are planning to practice medicine in the US, please understand that you have severely, perhaps fatally damaged your chances to do so if you attend an overseas medical school. IMGs (international medical grads--US citizens who have attended a non US medical school) are at a enormous disadvantage when it comes to securing a US medical residency (a requirement to practice medicine in the US). In fact, within the next 3 years it's anticipated that US MD and DO grads will completely fill all the available US residency slots.
If you are planning to practice medicine in the EU, then you will need to hold EU citizenship or permanent resident status in an EU country.
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You have proof of this? This suggests doctors in the UK and other European countries are not as well trained as those in the US? I doubt that. The NHS may not be as well resourced as private hospitals across all fields but doctors in the UK study Medicine for 6 years through undergaduate and graduate studies.They do not study an unrelated subject for their first degree. I'm not sure how long students spend in Medical school in the States but I don't think its that long?
Medical Boards in all countries have to ensure competence for practicing doctors. We do the same here in the UK and also test language skills etc. I can understand why countries set extra exams for overseas students, but I would think an Oxbridge medical degree would set you in good stead for any international exams.
Now residency is another thing...since thats more dependent on individual interviews and the personal prejudices of those doing the selection - as with any job application.
What are we missing..?
Another thingis that I have heard that their kds are doing 1 year interships in US.. how is this possible, Are Indian institutes allowig them to do 1 yr residency in US.. then are they at advatnage in getting the residency..
Well, now that I've gotten this far, I guess I'll continue. My daughter is a dual national (Spain/U.S.) and we have been thinking that maybe she would be better off going to med school in Spain simply because it's so much cheaper than in the States. Language would not be a barrier for her, and we realize that it's a six year degree and that Spaniards start their medical studies right after high school.
Does anyone in this forum know exactly how a B.A. degree in Neuroscience would be treated for the purpose of Spanish med school admissions? Years ago, when I still lived in Spain, you had to have each individual subject "recognized" (convalidada) and then you could apply for acceptance as an undergraduate with partial credit toward your Spanish undergraduate degree. I believe it's still the same nowadays, but I don't know 1) whether my daughter's high school diploma might be easier to "convalidar" and 2) whether she would have to do "Selectividad" having already begun her university studies in America. I would also like to know 3) if her high school or college g.p.a. would be taken into consideration, 4) how hard it would be to get one of the spots reserved for people from foreign educational systems, and 5) whether her Spanish nationality would give her the upper hand over other foreign applicants.
I would be extremely grateful for any insights you might be able to give me into the precise process for someone with American high school and college studies to get into med school in Spain.
If anyone knows anything about anyone who started off in Brasil and ended in the US please let me know!
You cannot "transfer" from an American college into foreign medical school because the curricula are different and the educational process is structured differently. You can apply for the medical portion of the program after completing an US undergrad. In that case, most schools will require a minimum GPA and minimum MCAT for admission. Some will require you to demonstrate fluency in the local language.
If you are planning to practice medicine in the US, please understand that you have severely, perhaps fatally damaged your chances to do so if you attend an overseas medical school. IMGs (international medical grads--US citizens who have attended a non US medical school) are at a enormous disadvantage when it comes to securing a US medical residency (a requirement to practice medicine in the US). In fact, within the next 3 years it's anticipated that US MD and DO grads will completely fill all the available US residency slots.
If you are planning to practice medicine in the EU, then you will need to hold EU citizenship or permanent resident status in an EU country.