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NYU Tisch & Steinhardt.....numbers

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  • tramsmomtramsmom 453 replies7 threads Member
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    @soozievt how is that you know MT acceptance is around 6%? I've heard that they ultimately accept in the neighborhood of 100 applicants to yield a class of 60. So I am wondering where you have heard those numbers since there is no breakdown among the applications for MT vs all Studios. We all know a portion of applicants specify MT only, but no one has ever cited those numbers. Nor have they cited the ratio of the applicants who will accept any studio who are ultimately offered NSB. If you have the actual numbers that would be helpful.
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  • soozievtsoozievt 31435 replies373 threads! Senior Member
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    @soozievt how is that you know MT acceptance is around 6%? I've heard that they ultimately accept in the neighborhood of 100 applicants to yield a class of 60. So I am wondering where you have heard those numbers since there is no breakdown among the applications for MT vs all Studios. We all know a portion of applicants specify MT only, but no one has ever cited those numbers. Nor have they cited the ratio of the applicants who will accept any studio who are ultimately offered NSB. If you have the actual numbers that would be helpful.

    tramsmom, I cannot give you this year's data beyond what Chris Anderson stated as the overall numbers for Tisch Drama. However, in the past, administrators from Tisch posted here (not to mention what we were told on audition day and I wrote it down then too), that approximately 1000 of those who audition for Tisch audition for MT. Typically, there are approximately 60 freshmen in the MT studio. I don't know how many they accept to yield 60 (I don't think it is 100 and not sure where that number you gave came from). You don't have to specify MT only. The number one should use as total number applying for MT is those who audition for MT, even if Acting is their second choice, and not only applicants who are only willing to apply for MT. The number who do a singing/dancing/acting audition are those who are vying for the MT studio as their first choice. In the past, this number was approximately 1000.
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  • soozievtsoozievt 31435 replies373 threads! Senior Member
    tramsmom, perhaps you may be interested in this thread from 2008. Yes, it is now 2015. However, I don't think these numbers have changed all that much at Tisch (including today's update from Chris Anderson!):

    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/nyu-tisch-mt/457977-number-of-freshmen-entering-tisch-in-acting-and-mt-each-year-p1.html
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  • tramsmomtramsmom 453 replies7 threads Member
    I believe that back in 2008 Cap21 and Tisch were still connected. I have been told the school has changed by leaps and bounds since then. I know the economy has changed since, and dozens of new MT programs have sprung up all over the country since 2008. I don't want to get into another debate, but no, I don't find information about any MT program that is 7 years old very helpful.
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  • soozievtsoozievt 31435 replies373 threads! Senior Member
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    The number of freshmen in NSB for MT is about the same as it was in CAP21 (that is a fact). The number auditioning for Tisch is still 2000 as pointed out in writing today from Chris Anderson, from admissions at Tisch. So, those numbers themselves haven't changed since 2008. I don't think it is far fetched that the number who are vying for MT hasn't changed much from the approx. 1000 it was before either. I don't believe the change in the economy has changed the number who apply to NYU or to Tisch. Their numbers haven't changed in that regard. In terms of the fact that more MT programs have sprung up, I don't think Tisch's numbers are down. I'm basing my post on a bunch of factual information and not speculation.

    Also, while Tisch may have changed its MT program, the numbers are what we are discussing and those haven't changed.
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  • mylovesmyloves 827 replies25 threads Member
    While the number of MT programs has increased, the number of people auditioning has also gone up, spread out over all of these schools.
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  • uskoolfishuskoolfish 2908 replies50 threads Senior Member
    @gingersnap97 Can't remember how many applied the year D was accepted to NYU Steinhart MT- (Class of 2012)-it was told to us, but don't want to quote a figure I don't have written down. Though this was a number of years ago, I believe that they are keeping the program to about 24 students. The year D applied they had an incredible yield. Her class began with 35 students. We were told that only two students did not enroll and another was on a medical leave and eventually withdrew. So based on that, I would be comfortable saying that Steinhardt accepts approximately 40 to yield approximately 24.
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  • uskoolfishuskoolfish 2908 replies50 threads Senior Member
    ^^ I meant don't know how many applied to the program. 38 were accepted with a yield of 35.
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  • gingersnap97gingersnap97 230 replies2 threads Junior Member
    @uskoolfish Thanks for sharing the info you have. We knew the numbers accepted were to yield a class of around 24, but we have never been able to figure out the number who apply to Steinhardt or how many they might accept to get their yield. .
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  • uskoolfishuskoolfish 2908 replies50 threads Senior Member
    D's year was an exception though. They did not expect a class as big as her's since they normally have more than 3 students decline a spot. And the funny thing is we know one of the two students who declined. He was the Beast to D's Beauty in their HS show.
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  • alwaysamomalwaysamom 12281 replies217 threads Senior Member
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    Steinhardt is an interesting program. One of my favorite shows I've seen through the years at NYU was the Steinhardt production of Ragtime at the Skirball about ten years ago. It was stellar.
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  • Notmath1Notmath1 577 replies36 threads Member
    From the Tisch website, it looks like there are 18 majors in the School Of Drama. so it is not surprising that the School Of Drama admissions director reports "We have a little over 2,000 applicants each year". I wonder which majors he refers to accepting 400. Would be interesting to know.
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  • soozievtsoozievt 31435 replies373 threads! Senior Member
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    Notmath....

    I don't understand your post. First, NYU doesn't have a School of Drama. Tisch School of the Arts is a school. Drama is a Department within the Tisch School. Tisch has various majors (ie., drama, film, dance, recorded music). The Department of Drama does not have 18 majors.

    Within Tisch Drama, one can apply for Acting, Musical Theater, Directing or Production and Design. That's it. The degree earned in any of these "majors" is BFA in Drama. There are 2000 applicants. They are not applying for 18 majors.
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  • limbo2019limbo2019 208 replies1 threads Junior Member
    I've known many people over the years confused by the whole NYU/ Tisch / Steinhardt "thing".
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  • soozievtsoozievt 31435 replies373 threads! Senior Member
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    limbo, the confusion regarding the differences between Tisch and Steinhardt, however, are not truly what is being discussed here. Those are programmatic differences. I think when it comes to information about a school, that those who have current students at the school or those who have had students graduate from the school, can offer some first hand information, in contrast to speculation by those who have had no affiliation with the school. In terms of numbers (the topic of this thread) in relation to Tisch Drama, they haven't changed much over the past 10 years.
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  • limbo2019limbo2019 208 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Thank you puma69!
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  • Notmath1Notmath1 577 replies36 threads Member
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    @soozievt, re: School Of Drama Director's email comment: In the school of drama it looks like there are 11 programs to apply to , plus Theatre Studies ( another major?), if I am reading the Tisch ( yes very confusing) website correctly.
    So it is not surprising that there are 2000 apps total for so many majors. Pace has just as many applicants for far fewer majors.
    I am curious to know of the 400 spots, which majors those include? And how many do they accept to yield 400? @soozievt, you may not know the answer so I do not mean to ask you directly. I put this out to anyone. Thank you.
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  • soozievtsoozievt 31435 replies373 threads! Senior Member
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    Notmath1, re: post #109:

    I am inferring that you are still confused. I tried to explain your misconception to you in post 104.

    There is NOT a SCHOOL of DRAMA at Tisch. Tisch is a SCHOOL of the ARTS. DRAMA is a DEPARTMENT. You can ONLY apply for Acting, Musical Theater, Directing, or Theater Production in the Department of DRAMA. In fact, the majority in the department are in Acting or MT. The other two are smaller. Those are four specialities. All result in a BFA in DRAMA, no matter which four you focus on.

    Chris Anderson was putting out information JUST for the DEPARTMENT of DRAMA. His information is NOT for the Tisch School overall (that includes many more majors like dance, recorded music, film, and so on). He is the Director of Admissions for just the Department of Drama, not the rest of Tisch and other assorted majors.

    There are 2000 apps for Tisch DRAMA.....that means for Acting and MT (which together are the majority) and Directing and Theater Production. The 400 spots he was referring to are JUST those four concentrations that all receive a BFA in Drama.

    Typically, in the past, about half of that 2000, were auditioning for MT.

    I don't think they publish how many are accepted to yield those spots.

    Typically, the MT studio has 60-64 spots. This was the case when it was CAP21 and is still the case with NSB.

    In my D's year, they accepted too many for MT.....about 80 and they chose to come, even though there were 64 spots. I was told in subsequent years, they accepted fewer because the yield was so high and so they were more cautious and there is a wait list.

    I don't know if this helps as I pretty much am repeating myself now but I can tell you are confused about majors and about the 2000 number and what is a school and a department and so on.

    As some like to point out, I realize my D was admitted 10 years ago and graduated 6 years ago. However, the numbers haven't changed much over this time with Tisch. Further, my D has been on the faculty at Tisch/NSB in the past. As well, I advise applicants to college, many of whom apply and have attended Tisch since my D attended.
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  • uskoolfishuskoolfish 2908 replies50 threads Senior Member
    @Notmath1 Chris is the head of the Department of Drama. It is one of the departments in Tisch under the umbrella of the Institute of Performing Arts. There are 2000 applications for the 7 primary studios in the Department of Drama that incoming students can attend. The MT studio is New Studio. The other drama studios are Atlantic, Stella Adler, Meisner, Playwrights Horizon (also directing), Production and Design and Lee Strasberg. Anyone attending NYU Tisch as part of the Department of Drama will get a BFA degree in Drama. Students have different focuses depending on what studios they audition for and are assigned to during their time at NYU. There are no separate majors--they are all attending Tisch in the Department of Drama. As upperclassmen, students can choose to switch into other studios and there are 2 studios that are only for upperclassmen.

    When one applies to Tisch's Department of Drama they will choose what they want to audition for, but placement is done by the school. There are different requirements for different artistic reviews. One can have an artistic review in Acting, MT, Directing or Production and Design. Someone auditioning for MT can request that they are only considered for MT. Otherwise they are automatically considered for acting if they are not placed in MT (New Studio.)

    So the 400 incoming freshmen students are placed within those 7 studios as incoming freshmen.

    Now if you go to the website, you will see that there are other departments under the Instiutue of Performing Arts. In addition to the Department of Drama, one can apply to Dance or Performance Studies. Those are separate departments and are not included in the 2000 who apply to Drama.

    In addition to the Institute of Performing Arts, Tisch also has the Kanbar Institute (Film and TV), Clive Davis Music and Cinema Studies.

    Hope this helps clarify things.
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