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think VT and UMD are pretty close to safeties because of the 36 ACT but not guarantees given that it’s engineering. I have seen a couple self reports of 36 being denied for Eng at VT but don’t know what else could be going on.
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That’s my concern…and each year things get more dicey. There is a lot of instate pressure to accept more instate kids because so many are getting rejected with strong stats. That 30% OOS may get reduced…who knows!