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  • TooOld4SchoolTooOld4School 3320 replies12 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,332 Senior Member
    Are you serious? Women are raped in Sweden at astronomical rates by refugees. It's so bad that the government won't even release or report the figures. What dribble.
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  • gouf78gouf78 7773 replies23 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 7,796 Senior Member
    It's hard to compare Sweden's 10 million population vs USA 326 million.
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  • mathmommathmom 32044 replies158 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 32,202 Senior Member
    I've never understood this argument. People are people.
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  • fractalmstrfractalmstr 2269 replies14 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,283 Senior Member
    edited March 2017
    The truth on crime in Sweden:

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/trump-exaggerates-swedish-crime/
    http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/

    Bottom line: You are all right to some extent. While there has been an uptick in crimes overall since 2014, including rape, the overall situation has been greatly exaggerated by those on the right. The primary reason for the increase in crimes appears to be related to immigrant joblessness, poverty, and exclusion from society. Immigrants are finding it difficult to integrate, a fact which, in and of itself, could become a problem for Sweden later on down the road.

    Regardless, Sweden has its pros and cons, like every country. Personally, I think the lack of geographic/weather diversity there would drive me up a wall, but that has nothing to do with immigrants obviously. :)
    edited March 2017
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  • Nrdsb4Nrdsb4 16733 replies156 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 16,889 Senior Member
    I've never understood this argument. People are people.

    What do you mean by this? What "argument" are you referencing? Surely it's pretty obvious that women are treated differently in various countries. In some places, women face extreme resistance to the concept that they even have a right to a formal education, much less do they receive equal pay for equal work, progressive benefits like mandated maternity leave, etc.
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  • doschicosdoschicos 20475 replies209 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 20,684 Senior Member
    @Nrdsb4 I read the comment to mean the size argument posted right above.
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  • gouf78gouf78 7773 replies23 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 7,796 Senior Member
    edited March 2017
    Mathmom--of course "people are people" but both population and cultural diversity makes a difference when it comes to governance. You can see that among our own 50 states--each area has it's own particular problems/solutions specific to the region--it's uniting us that is the challenge.

    Sweden is the approximate size of CA. It has a minority population of about 5%. It is both ethnically and culturally homogeneous for the most part. That is a huge plus.

    I see in the article that 2/3 of university degrees are awarded to women. What happened to the guys there? Is that really a plus for women and society?

    As for "gender neutral"---with my kids those "blocks and dolls jumbled together" wouldn't last long. They'd be separated out in a split second LOL.

    The birth rate remains stable but much is attributed to immigration into the country. It will be interesting to see how it affects Sweden in the coming years. Will all those "perks for parents" last?

    edited March 2017
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  • BunsenBurnerBunsenBurner 38455 replies465 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 38,920 Senior Member
    "Regardless, Sweden has its pros and cons, like every country. Personally, I think the lack of geographic/weather diversity there would drive me up a wall, but that has nothing to do with immigrants obviously."

    Cheap NWAS flights to Italy, Spain, etc. seem to sole that problem. :)
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  • HImomHImom 33975 replies387 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 34,362 Senior Member
    My room mate decades ago was from Sweden. She said her dad paid 90% income taxes. I don't believe that would ever pass in the US. They've had great paid parental leave in Sweden for decades--it was in place before the mid70s, when I mentioned it in my sociology honors thesis.
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  • Nrdsb4Nrdsb4 16733 replies156 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 16,889 Senior Member
    I read the comment to mean the size argument posted right above.

    Ugh, even though she didn't quote it, I should have realized someone named "mathmom" would be responding to a post about numbers. :D
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  • greenwitchgreenwitch 8674 replies41 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 8,715 Senior Member
    My sister lives in Sweden and has been there since 1990. I wouldn't say she loves it, and everyone loves to kvetch about the government, but she has chosen to stay and knows that her quality of life is far better there than it would be in the US or in many other places.

    When I first visited her, I was amazed by Stockholm, it seemed like such a large city. Sure, it's spread out because of the lake and islands but it occurred to me after a few days that it seemed large because there were no areas that were dangerous and off limits. You saw babies in their giant prams everywhere, accommodation was just built in. Since then it has gotten more diverse but it seems just as large and safe as ever (I was there in 2015). Food has gotten better too.

    What helps it a lot is that the small size is just more manageable, and it kept it's own currency.
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  • busdriver11busdriver11 15179 replies28 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 15,207 Senior Member
    $10 beers are another serious downside. Living there is not cheap.
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  • doschicosdoschicos 20475 replies209 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 20,684 Senior Member
    "I see in the article that 2/3 of university degrees are awarded to women. What happened to the guys there? Is that really a plus for women and society?"

    Scandinavian countries and other northern European countries ave very stellar vo-tech education that is also more focused on a classical education than what you can find in the USA. My speculation is that a lot of males choose that path and have good careers and jobs.

    "$10 beers are another serious downside. Living there is not cheap."
    True, but think about the extra money you would have if your health costs and higher ed were much cheaper or "free" (I'll put that in quotes so someone doesn't jump on me about taxes. :) )
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  • busdriver11busdriver11 15179 replies28 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 15,207 Senior Member
    Well, my higher ed was free (USAF scholarship) and my health care costs are minimal, so I'm not a good example to use! Though maybe if beer was too expensive, I wouldn't drink it. Could save some money there. Of course nothing is ever free, somebody pays for it. Thank you, taxpayers.
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  • musicprntmusicprnt 6216 replies37 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 6,253 Senior Member
    The downside of Sweden is the dark and cold weather, and that something like 1 out of 10 accidents is a collision with a moose (now you know why Saabs and Volvos were built so ruggedly for crash protection!). It really depends on your bent, their taxes are very high being a European social democracy, but then again you also don't have to worry about some of the things you do here, like healthcare if you lose your job for example. Having seen more then a few Swedish tourists running around NYC, there also is the people, too *lol* (obviously, not all Swedes are tall and gorgeous, but seems like at least some are (M and F I will add...) ......
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