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Georgia Tech BME OOS vs Emory

studybadly2018studybadly2018 Registered User Posts: 23 Junior Member
Got admitted both, same cost because GT is OOS without any aid and Emory offered LAS. Interested in biomedical sciences but not totally committed.

Also got in WashU, it costs too high without aid.

Any suggestions?

Replies to: Georgia Tech BME OOS vs Emory

  • jym626jym626 Registered User Posts: 56,592 Senior Member
    Great options!Are you planning to do the dual. Emory/GT program?
  • studybadly2018studybadly2018 Registered User Posts: 23 Junior Member
    @jym626 Thank you for point out the Emory/GT joint program. I will do some research on that.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,328 Senior Member
    @studybadly2018 : Maybe start at Emory and do bio or NBB (bio now has excellent quantitative classes associated with it andgreat classes that just teach biology better than some at Tech. NBB is just nice and interdisciplinary and GT BME has expanded into the neuroscience realm), and then do dual degree at Tech. However, be careful because Emory's chemistry curriculum just changed, and Tech is apparently giving some future dual degree students a hard time (which is rich considering that their foundational chemistry courses are less challenging than Emory's even before the change. I was recently corresponding to Dr. Soria about this this past weekend and he said he had a student in his class who was going to do BME at Tech and that this was an issue). You can also do "biophysics" and engineering sciences at Emory which could ensure a strong physics background (I do not think highly of physics 151/152 as preparation for somewhere like Tech or really even upper division physics courses).

    What are your STEM AP credits? They may help you substantially in not getting overwhelmed attempting the dual degree.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,328 Senior Member
    Wait nm...if you only want to do BME, just go to Tech ..
  • studybadly2018studybadly2018 Registered User Posts: 23 Junior Member
    I will have AP bio, AP chem, AP physics C, BC calculus, and AP stats.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,328 Senior Member
    @studybadly2018 : All of those will accelerate you in any major of choosing maybe except bio, but strings can be pulled in bio.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,328 Senior Member
    @studybadly2018 : You want to specifically talk to Cora McBeth: http://college.emory.edu/dual-degree/engineering/advising-requirements.html for the program itself, however I am wondering if Jed Brody (who was at Tech as a PhD student I believe), who is a part of Emory physics and largely responsible for helping implement the engineering sciences program can help. He may know about both schools and certainly may understand pathways at Emory that could help. Emory could be helpful for someone with multiple interests in STEM as it is more flexible and easy to double major or do interdisciplinary majors. Like if a person wants to do things that mix biomedical sciences with the quantitative side of biology, then QTM with a biology substantive area/biology or NBB major may be an excellent way to achieve this:

    A student, if interested in engineering/biomedical related things could take courses like computational modelling (bio/physics 212), physical biology (Biol 434), Disease Ecology (new, offered first time this year. Description reminds me of a course a friend took at Georgia Tech and does seem project/research based), immunology, graduate division physics courses on the biophysical side, or upper division chemistry courses such as chemical biology (which will be a 470). Many of these courses have a heavy mathematical component and/or a project based research oriented angle to them as opposed to: "We will mainly focus on students' abilities to crank out canned calculations", they are more along the line: "Be able to read primary literature in this field and tackle a small project of your own by the end of the course"...and most actually REQUIRE reading the literature or writing proposals.

    Again another route is something like computational neuroscience (which QTM/NBB substantive can help with along with the courses above and others) via a Beckman Fellowship:
    http://nbb.emory.edu/research/Programs that Support Undergraduate Research.html
    or I guess the regular training program still exists:

    So technically you can build an experience through "non-traditional" routes at Emory that give the research oriented life sciences training as well as the quantitative training needed to enter engineering. And note that in case your son is indeed interested in an MDPhD or or other more quantitative leaning medical programs...none other than the new Dean of Emory's medical school is a Harvard/MIT HST graduate (he attended the program in its newness).

    Whether Tech or Emory, your child should be ready to be very academically serious (so no, not just ready to earn great grades, but to fully engage the rigor of the place).

    Also if he ends up at Emory, maybe forfeit the chemistry credit and take Dr. Soria for 150. He will retrain your child in chemistry at pretty rigorous level. And they should be able to take 150,202, and 203 with him. Note that a student may initially be uncomfortable with his teaching and testing style (which emphasizes problem solving and applications), but even if it feels harsh or rough/not enough "spoon-feeding" for a first year at the time, sucking it up pays off as his students usually have a huge advantage in key upper division chemistry and biology courses. One can hate him in the moment and then thank him later. One could theoretically sit out 150 and wait for 202 in spring, but then taking someone like Soria is a much rougher transition. One would have to settle for "lesser" instructors which doesn't make much sense for anyone coming in with an AP credit.

    I have heard that if one goes to Tech, that it may actually help to go straight to multi, linear, or diff. eq if one has a BC credit. As in, DO NOT forfeit and try to take Tech's calculus series. Many come in over-confident, and by mid-semester are caught by surprise. My understanding is that taking Tech calc. 1/2 offers no advantage over BC in the 3 intermediate courses. I would say the same for Emory (intro. math is so dumb at Emory, that it really isn't worth a person with a 5 on BC wasting a semester, just take Honors Linear Algebra, or go to MV, Diff. Eq, or Linear from the get go)
  • studybadly2018studybadly2018 Registered User Posts: 23 Junior Member
    @bernie12 Thank you for your kindly suggestion! My dad also want me to pass his regard.
  • VANDEMORY1342VANDEMORY1342 Registered User Posts: 1,076 Senior Member
    It depends on how much BME is certain for you. If it's not almost 100% then the advantage swings in Emory's favor as you'll have more options and flexibility.
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