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GPA/SAT for USC Thornton

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  • BenGuanBenGuan 17 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 21 Junior Member
    Thank you so much!! Honestly I never thought I would get this much of information from one thread! Also anyone has something to say about the music school application myth please educate me :)
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  • SpartanDrewSpartanDrew 1079 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,088 Senior Member
    Music school application myth??? Not sure what you mean...
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  • BenGuanBenGuan 17 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 21 Junior Member
    I mean enigma :) it's quite complicated applying to those schools of music within a university. But thank you so much for your help!
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  • drummergirldrummergirl 307 replies3 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 310 Member
    @BenGuan as @MusakParent said it's more unusual to find ED in music programs. And even if there is an ED option, the admission is still conditional on passing the audition. Both my first two applied ED to their schools (not as music majors) and it was an advantage I think. However, my 3rd applied to all 8 music programs Regular Decision.
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  • JOberlanderJOberlander 15 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 15 Junior Member
    Having gone through the process myself with my son, USC cares virtually nothing about GPA as long as it's over a 3.0 average and you have the correct courses for them to check off/make the administration happy and then ignore. Despite what they say on their site, it's almost entirely based on talent ( 95%+ ). Think Juliard and you are in the right mindset of where their priorities lie.

    This makes it extremely hard to get in unless you have been studying with an opera coach for about 2 years. They don't really teach modern music in the vocal program there for undergrad and focus on classical technique as it really *is* a good foundation for later in life.

    They also have a problem in that two years ago three of their five voice faculty retired at once. The end result is all of the remaining full time faculty are working with the grad students for the most part, though they do have a couple of promising new faculty.

    That said, you should NOT got to USC as undergrad in voice. They are competent, but their focus is on their grad students almost entirely. My son wanted an undergrad focused program and the best college was Houston. They are one of the few state colleges in the country that has a private college level endowment for their program and it's a true conservatory experience without the egos or price. Full opera house, amazing staff, affordable tuition, and very undergrad focused as a rule. ( any scholarship of $1000 or more waives out of state tuition surcharges in Texas )

    They also have private school money to throw around on scholarships, trips, teachers, and all of the rest. No student pays more than a few dollars a year out of pocket ( t shirt, music folder, etc ). Virtually every expense is covered/there are no hidden extras to pay for. Any trip is automatically covered. And they take lots of trips to compete.

    USC? We're considering it highly for grad school. And for that, it's well worth it.
    (USC did accept him, but Houston was simply a better undergrad choice - zero regrets )
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  • astute12astute12 662 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 671 Member
    USCs pop vocal program is completely separate from the classical voice program. Pop is considered one of the top programs in the nation for undergrad.
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  • akapiratequeenakapiratequeen 982 replies34 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,016 Senior Member
    We’re doing EA at Berklee, is that a possibility?
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  • SpartanDrewSpartanDrew 1079 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,088 Senior Member
    Great advice right there from someone who knows... nice post @piranhavator
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  • astute12astute12 662 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 671 Member
    My son says that @piranhavator is one of the nicest people he has met at Thornton and that he is INSANELY talented!!! :)
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  • piranhavatorpiranhavator 195 replies38 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 233 Junior Member
  • piranhavatorpiranhavator 195 replies38 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 233 Junior Member
    @astute12 likewise, your son is one of the nicest and most talented guys I’ve met at Thornton. Really enjoy being in theory and aural skills with him.
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  • SpartanDrewSpartanDrew 1079 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,088 Senior Member
    we met @piranhavator in Miami during auditions and found we have some music friends in the same circles. Small world for jazz musicians I think. And you are right @astute12, super talented really nice guy!! Sounds like a great group of kids at Thornton.
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  • gram22gram22 100 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 100 Junior Member
    From experience, a 3.4 to 3.5 GPA is in the ball park for Thornton. A decent SAT score (1400+) would also help.
    USC does not have ED - do remember that the deadline for music apps is earlier anyway - Dec 1 if I'm not mistaken.
    Good Luck
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  • BenGuanBenGuan 17 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 21 Junior Member
    Thank you so much for your reply! My GPA is in that range and my SAT superscore is a 1450. I am taking the A-Level curriculum in an international high school in China. For my portfolio I believe it's one of the strong parts of the application. I just hope Thornton will focus less on my GPA ^:)^
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  • gram22gram22 100 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 100 Junior Member
    @BenGuan - 1450 super scorer is approx what my child had. So focus on your audition. I expect your prescreen was sent in a couple of weeks ago, and you should be hearing from Thornton soon. Good Luck !
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