Hm @homerdog I may have said this in another thread but our sons sound very similar (except for the running LOL!) @liska21 thanks…being a pushover is something I should probably talk about with him, and also the taking care of drunk roommate issue. I could see a risk of my non drinking DS being a little judgy about drinking and he is also fortunate to have a group of like minded friends in HS, and will also likely have to work to find that kind of group in college.