@homerdog it isn’t necessarily the case that a student won’t be happy at a less selective school once they’ve seen some reaches. I mentioned in another message that we visited both Pomona and Pitzer with our S. Neither school resonated and he didn’t apply. Same for Rice, another reach we visited. That was our junior year tour, when we didn’t know where he would end up SAT and GPA-wise and wanted to show him a broad range of schools so he could figure out what felt right to him. It probably varies with the kid, but ours was never really focused on more selective/less selective issues.