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White man calls police on black man waiting for a friend in apartment building
Emsmom1
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2019/07/09/white-man-calls-police-on-black-man-waiting-for-friend-at-san-francisco-apartment-building/#68fb4d9d62b5
What do people think about this? At first, I thought it was another example of racial profiling, but after seeing Don Lemon and reading more about the incident, I'm not sure. I live in a condo building and would be very uncomfortable with someone following me in, regardless of sex or race or anything else, especially if my building had been robbed (although, to be honest, I hate confrontation, so I probably wouldn't say anything). Also, Mr. Cukor's (the man who called the police) father was killed by a trespasser in front of his own home. So, we have two people: one that has been racially profiled before and came to the situation with his own unique background, and one whose father had been killed by a trespasser and who also came to the situation with his own unique background.
Was anyone right here? What should have happened? What would you have done?
48 replies What do people think about this? At first, I thought it was another example of racial profiling, but after seeing Don Lemon and reading more about the incident, I'm not sure. I live in a condo building and would be very uncomfortable with someone following me in, regardless of sex or race or anything else, especially if my building had been robbed (although, to be honest, I hate confrontation, so I probably wouldn't say anything). Also, Mr. Cukor's (the man who called the police) father was killed by a trespasser in front of his own home. So, we have two people: one that has been racially profiled before and came to the situation with his own unique background, and one whose father had been killed by a trespasser and who also came to the situation with his own unique background.
Was anyone right here? What should have happened? What would you have done?
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Replies to: White man calls police on black man waiting for a friend in apartment building
The article does not say what any responding police officers did (rolled their eyes?).
Having lived in a building like this, I would have been very uncomfortable with someone, regardless of race, piggybacking in. Especially if robberies occurred in the past. As a woman, I dont know if I’d have been vocal, definitely not if I had a child with me.
The police never came. Cukor told 911 that indeed the man was meeting someone.
I have had it at my kid's college too - I'm walking in (with her key) and an obvious student is behind me, so I let him follow me. Do I do that if he is less obviously a student?
All the normal stuff about who appears threatening to people is at play in this situation. I suspect the less threatening looking stranger is let in more than the more threatening looking one, and race has something to do with that.
But in this case, I do think the onus was on the non-resident tailgater to prove his right to be there by contacting his resident friend. That's what I would've done in his shoes. IMHO the request to use the callbox to contact his resident friend was reasonable.
There's a funny story we were told at work regarding tailgating into the office. Basically we were beaten about the head that we should never, ever tailgate or allow people to tailgate. So one day an employee confronted the CIO who was trying to tailgate behind him. The employee knew the CIO by sight and recognized him, but still made the CIO call security and get a temp badge. And the CIO then sent out an email about the incident praising the employee as an example to follow.
Unfortunately, when enforcement of a rule is rare, it is not surprising that it commonly is and/or is seen to be selective based on other reasons.
That's why I'm confused by your post about understanding women being vulnerable. I don't think any women were present for this.
It’s good people are aware of tailgating & willing to call someone out re: whether that person belongs in the building.
What if the tailgater was my violent ex-BF or ex-spouse or stalker or simply a crime opportunist?
Gavin deBecker has a very disturbing account of a crime against a woman where the man slipped in the secure door to the building. :-(