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FSU slips in party school rankings
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"Florida State University's ranking has dropped in a recently published study of universitys around the country, but school administrators aren't complaining.
The "Best 366 Colleges" guidebook, published by The Princeton Review, named FSU No. 18 in a top 20 list of best party schools. FSU was listed as the No. 1 party school back in 2000.
"Our 'Best 366 Colleges' is based on a survey of 120,000 students at the nation's top colleges," said Adrinda Kelly, senior editor of The Princeton Review. The New York-based publication is not affiliated with Princeton University in New Jersey.
Kelly said the schools are not ranked from best to worst academically. Instead, the book focuses on students' opinions on everything from campus culture to the library.
"We don't hold much stock in Princeton Review," Mary Coburn, FSU vice president of student affairs, said.
Coburn said Princeton Review representatives never tell how they sample students. FSU was listed positive in three other areas: America's best southeastern college, a college with a conscience and America's best value college. However, Coburn said the book and listings are not credible.
"We don't think there's any better authority than the customers of these schools," Kelly said.
Kelly said school administrators should find value from hearing from their customers."
Students who (almost) never study
1. West Virginia University
11. Florida State University
12. University of Florida
Party Schools
1. West Virginia University
5. University of Florida
18. Florida State University
Jock Schools
1. Clemson University
3. University of Florida
10. Florida State University
See: http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/NEWS01/708220329
20 repliesThe "Best 366 Colleges" guidebook, published by The Princeton Review, named FSU No. 18 in a top 20 list of best party schools. FSU was listed as the No. 1 party school back in 2000.
"Our 'Best 366 Colleges' is based on a survey of 120,000 students at the nation's top colleges," said Adrinda Kelly, senior editor of The Princeton Review. The New York-based publication is not affiliated with Princeton University in New Jersey.
Kelly said the schools are not ranked from best to worst academically. Instead, the book focuses on students' opinions on everything from campus culture to the library.
"We don't hold much stock in Princeton Review," Mary Coburn, FSU vice president of student affairs, said.
Coburn said Princeton Review representatives never tell how they sample students. FSU was listed positive in three other areas: America's best southeastern college, a college with a conscience and America's best value college. However, Coburn said the book and listings are not credible.
"We don't think there's any better authority than the customers of these schools," Kelly said.
Kelly said school administrators should find value from hearing from their customers."
Students who (almost) never study
1. West Virginia University
11. Florida State University
12. University of Florida
Party Schools
1. West Virginia University
5. University of Florida
18. Florida State University
Jock Schools
1. Clemson University
3. University of Florida
10. Florida State University
See: http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/NEWS01/708220329
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i think that fsu and the city/area is more pristine. it is also way more laid back and that chill attitude may cause some to think it is not as lively as another place. anyway i agree i dont think there is any problem having fun at fsu and in tally..............
all i can say is i think it seems
the students enjoy the classes. i want to take fashion merchandising and all studenta i spoke with said the fm program is amazing
really fun - everyone was so happy and wanted to be helpful willing to give directions - if they knew -(some were freshman)
for girls who want to pledge the houses are amazing
safe (my mom and i think it seems safer than gainesville)
anyway, I think FSU is definitely a big party school, more-so than UF. I only know maybe one person that doesn't drink...everyone else I've talked to does (not to a huge extent, but still). Any night of the week, there are always parties. Also, in my opinion, people study a ton at FSU. Strozier library is always packed! People call it club stroz, it's so popular.
just a couple of a current student's opinions :]
Anyway, if FSU wants me to attend, they need to move back up these charts.
You might have skipped around the edges of the true city. For when I visited FSU I was a little shocked at the hickey feel around the town. However, once I attended the first week a local brought me around to the actual city to the little coffee shops and unique restaurants and pointed out the clubs and shopping strips. I don't know how I missed it before!
Club stroz during finals week... all I can say is Ugh, Horribly packed! Ha
Check carefully, you'll find your banker likely has an advanced degree, your local high school teacher has a PhD and so on. It is hard to leave Tallahassee once you've lived there. Even today I'd like to return someday.
That being said.. I pretty much go out once a week and am moderately involved in campus activities and still got a 3.74 my first semester.
in fact, i've only had alcohol a couple times while my semester at fsu. i never said that the people i know who drink go out and drink every single night. most of them only drink a couple of times a month. of course, there are those kids who drink at least a couple times a week, but those are usually involved in the greek scene, and i only know a few of those people.
I had a good time this semester, drank a couple times, went to a few parties, and ended up with all A's and a B+ (3.83 gpa). These weren't typical "easy" classes, either, since I came into college with 22 hours received from SAT and AP credits. Also, I have multiple scholarships which are paying my way through college, so I have incentive not to drink. I'm not using mommy and daddy's money; I took out a loan instead.
Anyway, thanks for the personal attack that proved you know nothing about me :]
These blase' attitudes by the majority is what gives us these so called shameful.."Party School" rankings.
If FSU is ever going to be taken seriously as an Institution with respect to "Higher Learning and Education", we must address the on campus alcohol policies in place.
It must be zero tolerance with immediate expulsion, with anyone under the age of 21 sent home for a semester or more. We can not have the "boys being boys" policy that has ruled for years, with enforcement being selective and inconsistent.
We must adhere to strict guidelines with swift and absolute punishment. Initially alot of good students will suffer, but in a "few" semesters everyone will know the rules, and slowly but surely we will lose this "party school" image. The word will get around that if you want to party, then you better go to UF or something. FSU will then, and only then will attract the "best and the brightest", and achieve academic excellence.
Livelovelaugh...your right I do not know you, and I am wrong to attack you personally. I guess I was screaming through you, and not at you...using you as my "whipping boy", to get my point across.
You being a bright kid, and (I hope) a leader, and not a follower, perhaps you can be the FSU student (leader) to form, organize and adopt a new policy on under age drinking in regards to the Student Body.
Similiar, perhaps to the new NO TABACCO advertising campaign..."I don't Smoke, Dip or Chew"...perhaps using fellow student leaders and FSU sports stars. We need to make it cool not to drink, but cool to study. FSU is a good school, not a great school in many eyes. Let's make it the greatest school not just in Florida, but in the whole Southeast and top 50 in the USA. We need to shake this "party school" image to attain this status.
Is this an impossible dream?
Thoughts Welcome.
Thanks.
Uncleboog.
The top-ranked party school is top 50 University
The second-ranked party school is a top 50 University
The third-ranked party school is a top 35 University
FSU is 8th on the party rankings and 102nd in the University rankings. Room for improvment? Most definitely. However, that doesn't mean you can't party hard along with working hard.
Bibliography (:P)
Top Party Schools - PubClub.com!
National Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report
Since you seem to have retracted the post where you personally attacked livelaughlove, I'll ignore it..
"the facts remain that the majority of College kids that drink are under 21, which that in itself makes it illegal and not OK. "
So you think that everything that is illegal is not okay? I seriously beg to differ, and if you really think that- you have a lot to learn.
"It must be zero tolerance with immediate expulsion, with anyone under the age of 21 sent home for a semester or more."
That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. The penalties for hard drugs aren't even that severe. College is a time to experience new things, and the responsible use of alcohol is among those. If gaining spots in the rankings is your goal, how come alcohol is even prevalent among the Ivies? I appreciate your genuine interest in making FSU a better school, but I don't think that the alcohol situation is to blame.
Also, I don't believe the tobacco metaphor is very accurate. Tobacco doesn't influence your actions like alcohol does, and there is no real reason to smoke, unless out of habit. Alcohol, however, has many enjoyable effects which I am sure you are aware of.
This is coming from a current FSU student with a 3.75 GPA who goes out and drinks about once per week while still attending to his schoolwork. I am also in the honors program with the university scholarship and don't "waste mommy and daddy's money" either.
Will the demands of the Honors program, living in Landis Hall, and being around like minded students preclude the temptations of non stop partying?
D wants to apply for Med Scholars, does take her studies seriously, but does like a good time as well.
To Futermed: "A good time as well" You can have a good time without alcohol? Right?
I am not aware of anything enjoyable about alcohol consumption...but what the facts are below.
SOME FACTS:
Alcohol, one of the oldest drugs of abuse, is a colorless liquid produced by fermenting cereals such as corn, rice, and barley. Alcohol, which produces a sedative effect, induces depression and is one of the oldest and most common drugs of abuse. Short-term effects of alcohol include anxiety, slowed heart and respiratory rates, blurred vision, and poor motor coordination. Long-term effects include cirrhosis, cancers, cardiac diseases, and any number of other irreversible neurological and psychological health conditions. Nationally, nearly 40% of admissions to mental hospitals and 50% of arrests are alcohol-related. The minimum drinking age is 21 years. However, it is estimated that nearly 65% of all alcohol outlets sell alcohol to minors. A Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) level of .08 or higher is considered to be intoxicated, and it is illegal to drive under these conditions. Individual and interpersonal alcohol preventive strategies, such as educations campaigns designed to resist social influence and peer pressure, and the primary preventative efforts implemented by the alcohol council.
People killed or injured in automobile accidents each year. (55,000)
Alcohol is one of the worst known drugs known to man...YES, it is a HARD DRUG (like the others)..it is just accepted, tolerated and woven into society so deep, that it appears to be a lost cause to fight.
This is a public forum. Whether you are for this argument, against it or neutral....folks we have a HUGH problem on our hands with under age drinking on College Campuses...my hope is that FSU recognizes this and becomes a leader in stopping it. To parents...I challenge you to tell your kids to resist the temptation of alcohol consumption all together. It is not OK to drink, and you don't need it to be accepted by your peers, or otherwise. The short term effects are troublesome, the long term effects of alcohol are devastating. And for the record alcohol consumption is VERY ADDICTIVE. Similiar to TOBBACO.
Have you ever drank before? I can list quite a few desirable effects related to alcohol consumption (and undesirable ones as well). I think it's wrong of you to tell parents how to raise their children, and I am confused why you have such a negative attitude towards alcohol in general.
And- yes, it is entirely possible to have fun without drinking. I enjoy my life and I certainly don't walk around drunk all day.
Good day to you Mr. ****.