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nothing4me
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I am going to be a second-year aerospace engineering student and I did a really good job in Calculus I so I got invited to take Calculus II honors. I did great in there too (In both classes I received As).

I like Math and find it enjoyable. However, I never did 'real math' as in I never dealt with any proofs and such. Just applications (I guess it's more "practical"). The previous two calculus classes were specifically made for engineers/science majors.

Now, I have two options for multi-variable calculus:

Math 251H - Multivariable Calculus (Honors)

Math 291 - Honors Calculus III

According to the school's website:

I talked to my Calculus I professor (who is extremely knowledgeable and somewhat world-known in the math world) and she said:

Now, I would ask the Calc III instructor for some advice, but they haven't announced him/her yet. In the meanwhile, can I please have some of your opinions? I would really appreciate it!

I like Math and find it enjoyable. However, I never did 'real math' as in I never dealt with any proofs and such. Just applications (I guess it's more "practical"). The previous two calculus classes were specifically made for engineers/science majors.

Now, I have two options for multi-variable calculus:

Math 251H - Multivariable Calculus (Honors)

Math 291 - Honors Calculus III

According to the school's website:

251 vs. 251H vs. 291.

Math 251 continues the sequence begun with Math 151-152, usually with the same textbook and at the same level of rigor. The honors sections labeled 251H of Math 251 are (in general) intended for honors students in disciplines other than mathematics and are more demanding versions of the same course. By contrast, Math 291 is deliberately intended as a course in honors mathematics for students whose primary interest in the course is the mathematics it contains. The textbook may not be that used in other calculus courses, and the choice of course material is at the instructor's discretion to a greater extent than in other lower-division courses. Theorems may be proved in class and required on examinations, and many variables may mean n variables, not just 2 or 3.

I talked to my Calculus I professor (who is extremely knowledgeable and somewhat world-known in the math world) and she said:

I never understood really what was the purpose of teaching a series like 151 (Calc 1) and the likes. There is no real science there, at any level, just formulas and rules for solving problems nobody knows where they come from.

I think it is a waste of students' time. If I was a student here in this system, I would have absolutely hated it and would never go into math!

Now, I would ask the Calc III instructor for some advice, but they haven't announced him/her yet. In the meanwhile, can I please have some of your opinions? I would really appreciate it!

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## Replies to: Should I take a math major honors multi-variable calculus or regular honors?

4,273Senior Member837MemberAdditionally see if you can register for both and drop one once you get an idea of what you are in for

1,479Senior Member653MemberThank you all!

350Member72,246Senior MemberIf the regular courses are "just formulas and rules for solving problems nobody knows where they come from", then I agree that they are not very interesting, and not particularly good. Even if your main interest is applying math to practical problems, knowing where the formulas and rules come from is helpful to understand which of them apply to which problems and how to properly apply them.

I mean, if you don't understand what integration in calculus means, you could do something like what a medical researcher did as described [url=http://fliptomato.****/2007/03/19/medical-researcher-discovers-integration-gets-75-citations/]here[/url].

1,026Senior Member653Member