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Early Decision apps to Northwestern Class of 2017 reach all-time high

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Replies to: Early Decision apps to Northwestern Class of 2017 reach all-time high

  • Jadambusch416Jadambusch416 Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    Does anyone know what time of day the ED decision email is supposed to arrive on December 15th?
  • lagunallagunal Registered User Posts: 600 Member
    the person who is considering USC to stay away from mold, has never done research on Southern California beach cities and Black Mold, which is everywhere. The only way to get away from that is to move to a desert city, like Las Vegas.
  • wildcatalumwildcatalum Registered User Posts: 349 Member
    Axelrod wrote:
    Northwestern should accept 50% ED. (Good for yield, but bad for % accepted.)
    If Northwestern accepts 50% of ED applicants (thats 1300/2600), the RD rate will be lower because there would only be 700 more spaces left out of 30,000+ who will apply RD.

    To have 50% of the freshman class admitted via ED (1000 out of 2000 total slots available), the ED acceptance rate will be 38% (1000/2600). This means in the RD round, there will only be 1000 more spaces left that 30,000+ RD applicants will compete for.
  • wildcatalumwildcatalum Registered User Posts: 349 Member
    Of course, you should also take into consideration the yield, which will be about 45% this year. Though the freshman class has 2000 spaces, many more will be admitted to account for yield. The exact number is unknown and will depend on the number of ED students admitted (for which yield is ~100%).

    If Northwestern admits 800 via ED like last year (making for a 31% ED acceptance rate, 800/2600), it will need to admit 1200*3=3600 in the RD round (RD has ~30% yield). Total accepted is 800 ED + 3600 RD= 4400. Based on 32000 applications, the overall (ED and RD combined) acceptance rate will be a little under 14%.

    If Northwestern admits 1300 via ED (making for a 50% ED acceptance rate, 1300/2600), it will need to admit 700*3=2100 in the RD round (RD has ~30% yield). Total accepted is 1300 ED + 2100 RD= 3400. Based on 32000 applications, the overall (ED and RD combined) acceptance rate will be 10.6%.

    Honestly, Northwestern could admit 50% of ED applicants if it wanted to, but it probably won't.
  • AxelrodAxelrod Registered User Posts: 663 Member
    Thanks for breaking down my post into actual numbers. I probably should have written "up to 50% should be accepted ED if well qualified." Any higher % would adversely affect the overall admission rate because fewer might apply thinking that the odds of admission are too low in the RD round thus resulting in a deceivingly high overall rate of admission.

    Several years ago, Princeton accepted 50% of each class ED. Not sure of the current practice, however, because I know changes were made.
  • wildcatalumwildcatalum Registered User Posts: 349 Member
    You're right...if the projected RD rate is too low, fewer applicants might apply. With a 50% ED acceptance rate though and assuming steady application numbers (32000 like last year), Northwestern will rival Penn and Duke in selectivity or even surpass them with a 10.5% overall (ED and RD combined) acceptance rate as soon as this cycle. Again, I highly doubt Northwestern will actually go from accepting 33% of ED applicants to 50% in one year. But if it wants to be aggressive, it can.
  • AxelrodAxelrod Registered User Posts: 663 Member
    With a relatively new president who has pledged to make Northwestern a top ten (I believe) school, a 50% ED acceptance rate is a possibility. Anyone familiar with how Williams College handled ED (if it offered ED) during his years there ?
  • Sam LeeSam Lee Registered User Posts: 9,449 Senior Member
    I don't recall Schapiro making such pledge and if you are talking about top ten in terms of USN college ranking, NU actually had been there three times before. While we would like to be there consistently, it isn't some lofty goal we haven't achieved before.

    Manipulating the ED rate without any major upgrade in marketing such as mass mailing and hiring more admission staff for correspondance (to have the prospective HS students the warm and fuzzy feeling) seems like a half-hearted effort when our neighbor in the South Side has already proven those strategies work. That tells me the President isn't really aggressive in having NU climb the rankings through admission practice, at least not right now.

    That said, Schapiro did say he likes having more students that had NU as their first choice. Trying to build a stronger sense of community seems to be one of his toop priorities. The disccusion of a new student center, the addition of central campus green space, and the plan for a new athletic complex seem to indicate to me the President is focused on the student life, community, and academics, not the external college ranking. For some reason, I just get the impression that USN college ranking is rather low on Schapiro's list.
  • AxelrodAxelrod Registered User Posts: 663 Member
    Sam: He made it during his first year. And, wow, are you mistaken regarding President Shapiro's focus & concern on USNews' ranking of NU.
    With that one remark, your credibility re:Northwestern is on shaky ground despite your obvious devotion to NU. Maybe his priorities have changed in the last year, but I doubt it especially when considering his term at Williams College.
  • ugotserved834ugotserved834 Registered User Posts: 278 Junior Member
    So in other words, this is pure speculation....
  • Sam LeeSam Lee Registered User Posts: 9,449 Senior Member
    He made it during his first year
    Do you have a source?
    Maybe his priorities have changed in the last year, but I doubt it especially when considering his term at Williams College.
    Williams College :: News & Events - Press Releases mentioned nothing about rankings. But Williams was already in the top-3 consistently before he went there in 2000. So you are not making any sense when you said "considering his term".

    I do see some parallels between what he did at Williams and what he has been doing at Northwestern: building projects and expansion of access and afffordbility (e.g. Good Neighbor program).
  • AxelrodAxelrod Registered User Posts: 663 Member
    Sam: It may have been published in the campus newspaper, but Shapiro definitely stated that one of his main goals was to get NU ranked in the top 10.

    I know that you've been a reliable source over several years on CC, but this is one that you may have missed.

    P.S. A great source would be Pres. Shapiro. Because you seem so involved, you might have an opportunity to ask him. But, I assure you, that it was published.
  • ugotserved834ugotserved834 Registered User Posts: 278 Junior Member
    @Axelrod--You changed your view from "I believe" to "definitely" in the span of less than a day.
  • AxelrodAxelrod Registered User Posts: 663 Member
    No need to be a jerk about this.
  • ugotserved834ugotserved834 Registered User Posts: 278 Junior Member
    I am not being a jerk, I just want to know the truth, so I would like to know where you received your info. It would be great for me of the ED rate was 50%, but that just seems so unlikely that I would like to know the sources of such claims.
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