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## Replies to: Math Placement Test Without a Calculator?

16,063Senior Memberthe one exception is that they offer a free brush up course the summer before classes start. if the student is willing to show up for a shorter course at that time (some are still in HS when they come here in the evenings for the class), they then can retake and be re-placed in math. If they start in the first session, they can keep taking it till they pass or run out of summer. Since most of our students are in commuting distance, it's a really good opportunity.

794MemberIt's not a matter of concept or method. (I've never even heard of Newton's method.) Squares and square roots are very simple concepts, and I'm sure your daughter knows what they are. It's a matter of mathematical reasoning: 95 is between 9^2=81 and 10^2=100. Therefore, the number that you would square to get 95 is between 9 and 10. Logic.

A lot of high school math seems like an attempt to impart this kind of logic on the students--figuring out how to manipulate equations so you can solve them--but I don't think it works very well. Kids tend to memorize: they look for the formula, the method that will allow them to solve a specific type of problem. If they don't remember the method or the problem is unfamiliar to them, they just give up. (Someone with good mathematical logic, on the other hand, can use what they know about the properties of the numbers and operations to find their own method of solving the problem.) To them, it doesn't really matter--they can pass their tests just fine--but memorization is fleeting.

267Junior Memberso i think the college was right in making the test non calculator.

all questions could be done without a calculator.

22,762Senior Member