Spreadsheet listing average GPA's and MCAT's from Undergraduate schools?

[YeezyHov]

<p>Hey,</p>

<p>im a high school junior and was wondering if someone might have an excel chart of pre med major gpas and mcats? (not for the actual med school obviously)</p>

[Jugulator20]

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/”>https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Tables 17 and 18 might be helpful. Just to be clear, with exception of maybe a couple of schools, there is no such thing as a “premed” major per se. You can major in whatever you want. Also understand that the MCAT writing section is being eliminated and replaced with another multiple choice section in early 2015.</p>

[WayOutWestMom]

<p>Actually the MCAT writing section was eliminated in 2012. (The unused 50 minutes of test time was replaced by an experimental section of questions for biochem and human behavior.)</p>

<p>The new 2015 MCAT will have 4 sections–the 3 sections currently used on the MCAT (verbal reasoning, biological sciences and physical sciences) plus a new section called the Psychological, Sociological and Biological Foundations of Behavior (aka Human Behavior).</p>

<p>All 4 sections will have equal weight in an applicant’s final MCAT score.</p>

[WayOutWestMom]

<p>BTW, I wouldn’t try to over-interpret the data in Table 18.</p>

<p>While the data may demonstrate trends, some of the data is skewed by the relatively small numbers involved. (There were only 402 math majors and only 1968 humanities majors applying to med school out of ~50,000 applicants.) There is a very strong self-selection bias involved.</p>

<p>I would also caution you to remember that statistical data is only meaningful on a macro scale and is not all that useful for predicting the success of a particular individual. (IOW, don’t pick your major based solely upon this chart.)</p>

<p>P.S. If you want data for individual medical schools, there is one source. MSAR (Medical School Admission Requirements)-- a subscription database updated annually by AMCAS. MSAR lists the MCAT and GPA range for accepted applicants for each US allopathic med school, as well some decile ranks for same. (10th percentile, 90th percentile, 50th percentile)</p>

<p>For osteopathic medical school the same information is available in the Osteopathic Medical School Information Book. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.aacom.org/news-and-events/publications/cib_final”>http://www.aacom.org/news-and-events/publications/cib_final&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[Jugulator20]

<p>“Actually the MCAT writing section was eliminated in 2012.”</p>

<p>As S took MCAT In 2007 and after he got score I never gave second thought to mechanics of test, I did not know that. I guess old dogs can learn new things.</p>

[texaspg]

<p>There will be lot more new tricks starting 2015 May. </p>

<p>The entire history related to MCAT becomes somewhat of an issue in 2016 because the historical data may become unusable while no new data exists to predict what are considered good scores with the new format. If I am not mistaken, BS test content will be changing which probably makes comparisons to the old test scores a bit hard for half of the test.</p>

[mom2collegekids]

<p>It sounds like the student wants the avg GPA of the med school applicants from each undergrad. If so, there isn’t such a list, I don’t think.</p>

<p>and, since there isn’t such a thing as a “premed major” except for maybe 2 schools, if such a list existed it would just have all the premed applicants from a particular school lumped together as a mix of majors. </p>

[MiamiDAP]

<p>if this info is collected to make a decision about UG, then it is absolutely wrong approach and a waste of time.
If it isnot going to be used in decision making then what is the reason to have this information?
No matter how you look at it, the reason for seeking this type of listing is not clear at all. </p>

[YeezyHov]

<p>I mean it’s not the single factor deciding where I want to go, but rather it might caution me to avoid certain schools (e.g. chicago and princeton). Thanks for the great responses!</p>

[YeezyHov]

<p>Out of curiosity, according to the spreadsheets, significantly less % of hispanics with better stats get accepted in comparison to whites and asians? Anyone know why this is? obviously affirmative action still exists in med school.</p>

[WayOutWestMom]

<p>Do you want the long version or short version answer?</p>

<p>In the words of several med school adcomms:</p>

<p>

We, as medical schools are performing a service to the people in this country who need care.
When there is evidence that segments of our society are not receiving care, it is our obligation to address this need.
All of our students benefit from learning with students of various life experiences.</p>

<p>In addition to metrics, there are important personal qualities and experiences that contribute to an applicant’s desirability.</p>

<p>There is no right to a medical education. It is an honor. One that is reasonably influenced by the needs of the people we serve.

</p>

<p>And</p>

<p>

It is as ^^ states, about fulfilling a need in this country. We can debate how effective it is (or ineffective for that matter), but the purpose of AA is to bring more physicians to under served areas. Given that nobody else seems to have any other solutions to this disparity, it is hard to argue with it.

</p>

<p>And</p>

<p>

The admissions process is meritocratic (except for legacies, but nobody bitches about that…it’s always URMs that get the goat of the hyperacheivers). </p>

<p>Unfortunately, too many people forget that there’s more to merit than just GPA and MCAT score. The road traveled can be just as important.

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<p>See also: <a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/87306/data/physiciandiversityfacts.pdf”>https://www.aamc.org/download/87306/data/physiciandiversityfacts.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://aamcdiversityfactsandfigures.org”>http://aamcdiversityfactsandfigures.org</a></p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/413384/data/holisticadmissionsinthehealthprofessions.pdf”>https://www.aamc.org/download/413384/data/holisticadmissionsinthehealthprofessions.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And one more;</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/401814/data/aug2014aibpart2.pdf”>https://www.aamc.org/download/401814/data/aug2014aibpart2.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>URM physicians are more likely to practice in rural areas, in medically underserved areas with limited access to heathcare, in areas with a high poverty rate (>20%)and as primary care physicians than white or Asian physicians.</p>

[plumazul]

<p>@YeezyHov

… according to the spreadsheets, significantly less % of hispanics with better stats get accepted in comparison to whites and asians? Anyone know why this is? …

</p>

<p>Are you referring to Table 25-1? If so, it appears the table is defective as it is inconsistent with Table 25-5. I have sent a e-mail asking for an explanation. </p>

[YeezyHov]

<p>Haha yeah… Thank you! </p>