stillwater85 replies4 threadsRegistered UserJunior Member
Hey, when do the students get a stanford.edu e-mail address? I would like to print up some social business cards to pass out at the graduation party. But I guess with facebook anymore the kids can stay in touch just fine.
Mamae - The bikes at Stanford are super expensive themselves anyway. And it's not a super expensive bike. My dad would probably give it away if i left it here anyway.
Do all the freshman dorms have computer labs? I thought somewhere I had heard that they do however, when we toured lagunita and roble I don't remember anyone pointing that out to us.
mamae151 replies6 threadsRegistered UserJunior Member
Jasonvdm, I misinterpreted your description of your bike as "quite nice" to mean "quite expensive." My point was I would not leave a bike worth more than a few hundred $$ on any campus.
SunDiego115 replies2 threadsRegistered UserJunior Member
Stillwater, if you've set up your SUNet account your Stanford e-mail address should be functional. First send yourself an email via your current email program; send it to [email protected] edu. Then Google Stanford web mail, log in with SUNet i.d. and experience the joy of that moment!!
NJDS1297 replies26 threadsRegistered UserSenior Member
note about bikes: i would avoid buying 4-year service packages because a large percentage of students will get their bike stolen at least once in the first 2 years - the service package is only valid on that particular bike and you'll need to buy a new one for a new bike. a 2-year package, if available, might be better
Ok so this is a totally different question. Are there any parents out there that have kids or had kids in the Hum bio program or management science and engineering? Both of these degrees are interdisciplinary and I'm just not sure what one does with them at the end of the day, especially if you don't want premed or prelaw. I think that both have quite a nice course offering but no one can give me any specific jobs that you can do with them upon graduation. So are there any parents out there that are better informed.
Opphs, I forget I have another question. Since Stanford doesn't offer business as a major, I'm assuming that kids who want to take that route take economics, am I correct? Also are there other routes that can stand as a psuedo business major?
My D is a MS & E major. She looks at it as a modern business degree. Her plan is to get a MBA and then maybe go towards IBM or a consulting firm. She briefly considered Economics but decided it wasn't for her.
/\ That's exactly what I am doing. Perhaps a minor in economics, since I love it. I have found that the typical undergrad business degrees at other schools are pointless. An engineering degree will teach you to think critically and logically.
I think that MS & E degree sounds nice too. Again, not to be annoying what can you do with it after four years? Do you think the outside world respects it enough to look at it as a modern undergrad business degree? Can you get a job or do you need the MBA. I'm just looking for something that kids can do after four years. An MBA is great but thats another two years of tutition. Unless you can work for corporate america and then have them pay for your MBA through job reimbursement.
NJDS1297 replies26 threadsRegistered UserSenior Member
an MS&E degree is in almost all ways better than a normal undergrad business degree.
I know MS&E graduates that have been hired by banks (Citi), consulting firms (McKinsey, etc.), and local corporations without needing to get an MBA. however, many will still pursue a masters in MS&E (coterm), engineering masters, or MBA
Remember, you CANNOT get an MBA straight out of undergraduate school. A requirement to get into Business schools is work experience. You're expected to go back to get that MBA 2- 4 years after graduating your under grad typically.
MSE students have gone to a lot of places. Also, co-terming is a great option which i'll definitely be doing
I've never heard of the fact that you need to work for 2-4 years before getting an MBA. Is that new? Also isn't a coterminal degree a masters? So if you did that then you definitely wouldn't be working 2-4 years before securing your MBA. (Funny thing is that both myself and Husband have an MBA but we switched career tracks so we did work before getting out degrees, I just don't remember that being a stipulation.)
Dungareedoll, co-terming is not available for all Stanford undergrad departments, for example, I know that you can't do it in economics. There is no undergrad degree in business administration, so there would be no co-term for that either.
The coterminal degree program at Stanford allows you the unique opportunity to begin work on a masters degree while you are finishing your bachelors degree. The degrees do not have to be from the same department. They can be combined in a way that adds coherence and depth to your educational program or enhances your professional or personal interests.
For financial aid purposes, you are considered an undergrad while taking courses towards your co-term in the 3rd or 4th year. My nephew did his work for a bachelor's and co-term master's degree in 4 years, so any financial aid he was receiving would have worked towards the co-term.
If, as most students do, you complete the co-term requirements during a 5th year, you would not get any FA for that year.
Most MBA programs do want their students to have work experience before attending. This is not new.
zenkoan1106 replies12 threadsRegistered UserSenior Member
It's true that having several years' work experience is expected by top MBA programs these days. However, on occasion students may still gain admission to top MBA programs straight out of undergraduate school if they make a compelling case for readiness. Another alternative is a joint JD/MBA program, which can be started right after undergrad and typically results in earning both graduate degrees in four years.
frenhofer4 replies0 threadsRegistered UserNew Member
Dear Admissions Officer,
The long forced march of college applications, fretful waiting and difficult choices has come to a happy conclusion for my son and me. It was my first time through the wringer, and it was a bit unnerving to find myself so near the epicenter of the helicopter parent-tiger mother-Ivy or bust debate: that is, to see private experience through the wrong end of the telescope. If the stress on admissions officers is even some small fraction of the sum we endured – as it must be – you have my sincere sympathy and admiration. I am glad I will not have to face it again for a while.
My son was denied admission to the SU class of 2015, but admitted to many other fine schools – U. of Chicago, seven of the Ivies, Swarthmore, Hopkins, etc. – and in the end chose between Yale and Harvard. We understand how he could be passed over by Stanford Admissions even with his extraordinary record of accomplishment – that is, after all, your nearly impossible task, to choose between thousands of high achievers. What confused and alarmed and eventually cost us thousands of dollars in additional applications and College Board vigorish was his denial in December. It remains very difficult to understand how he could not have been worthy of the ‘maybe’ or ‘decision deferred’ pile.
‘What does it matter?’ you might ask, and the answer is probably not much, and indeed I would not write except that at my son’s high school senior award ceremony a counselor came up to me and told me the following story. She was working on college applications with a highly recruited athlete when this young man – the California state record holder in his track and field event – heard that my son had been denied admission by SU. “If they won’t take him (my son), I don’t want to go there” he said, and refused to submit his application. Now if I had known this at the time I would have thanked the young man for the implicit compliment to my son, and then along with his counselor done everything in my power to change his mind. This scholar-athlete had the grades and scores to go anywhere, but such is the nature of adolescent friendship that he turned his back on SU and ended up at another PAC 10 university. As for my son’s other close friends who were denied SU admission in December, they will matriculate at Princeton, MIT, Columbia and Yale.
Am I saying someone made a mistake? I have no basis to know, but it does seem that the eye of the SCEA needle was exceedingly small this time around.
I hope you will forgive me for signing this with a nom de net: my daughter will apply to SU in 2014.
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Again thanks for all your help.
I know MS&E graduates that have been hired by banks (Citi), consulting firms (McKinsey, etc.), and local corporations without needing to get an MBA. however, many will still pursue a masters in MS&E (coterm), engineering masters, or MBA
MSE students have gone to a lot of places. Also, co-terming is a great option which i'll definitely be doing
Here are some useful links:
Choosing to Coterm | Undergraduate Academic Life
Welcome to the Coterm Page | Undergraduate Academic Life
For financial aid purposes, you are considered an undergrad while taking courses towards your co-term in the 3rd or 4th year. My nephew did his work for a bachelor's and co-term master's degree in 4 years, so any financial aid he was receiving would have worked towards the co-term.
If, as most students do, you complete the co-term requirements during a 5th year, you would not get any FA for that year.
Most MBA programs do want their students to have work experience before attending. This is not new.
The long forced march of college applications, fretful waiting and difficult choices has come to a happy conclusion for my son and me. It was my first time through the wringer, and it was a bit unnerving to find myself so near the epicenter of the helicopter parent-tiger mother-Ivy or bust debate: that is, to see private experience through the wrong end of the telescope. If the stress on admissions officers is even some small fraction of the sum we endured – as it must be – you have my sincere sympathy and admiration. I am glad I will not have to face it again for a while.
My son was denied admission to the SU class of 2015, but admitted to many other fine schools – U. of Chicago, seven of the Ivies, Swarthmore, Hopkins, etc. – and in the end chose between Yale and Harvard. We understand how he could be passed over by Stanford Admissions even with his extraordinary record of accomplishment – that is, after all, your nearly impossible task, to choose between thousands of high achievers. What confused and alarmed and eventually cost us thousands of dollars in additional applications and College Board vigorish was his denial in December. It remains very difficult to understand how he could not have been worthy of the ‘maybe’ or ‘decision deferred’ pile.
‘What does it matter?’ you might ask, and the answer is probably not much, and indeed I would not write except that at my son’s high school senior award ceremony a counselor came up to me and told me the following story. She was working on college applications with a highly recruited athlete when this young man – the California state record holder in his track and field event – heard that my son had been denied admission by SU. “If they won’t take him (my son), I don’t want to go there” he said, and refused to submit his application. Now if I had known this at the time I would have thanked the young man for the implicit compliment to my son, and then along with his counselor done everything in my power to change his mind. This scholar-athlete had the grades and scores to go anywhere, but such is the nature of adolescent friendship that he turned his back on SU and ended up at another PAC 10 university. As for my son’s other close friends who were denied SU admission in December, they will matriculate at Princeton, MIT, Columbia and Yale.
Am I saying someone made a mistake? I have no basis to know, but it does seem that the eye of the SCEA needle was exceedingly small this time around.
I hope you will forgive me for signing this with a nom de net: my daughter will apply to SU in 2014.
Sincerely,
M. Frenhofer