15 British sailors detained by Iran...

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<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/31/iran.sailors/index.html[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/31/iran.sailors/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Interesting article from NRO.</p>

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<p>The rest of the story…</p>

<p><a href=“http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MGNmMzdmOGM5OTlmMzMxZDAzYjBiZDc4NjI1NjViYzU=[/url]”>http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MGNmMzdmOGM5OTlmMzMxZDAzYjBiZDc4NjI1NjViYzU=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/31/iran.sailors/index.html[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/31/iran.sailors/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/01/iran.sailors/index.html[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/01/iran.sailors/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/02/iran.sailors/index.html[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/02/iran.sailors/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/04/ap_iran_britishsailors_070402/[/url]”>http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/04/ap_iran_britishsailors_070402/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Which just goes to show what happens when spineless politicians get involved in military decisions.</p>

<p>I’ll remind everyone that Carter & Company ordered our Marines not to open fire as the same goons who run Iran now were climbing over the embassy gates back in 1979. Look what our show of goodwill earned us. :rolleyes:</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200343.html?hpid=topnews[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200343.html?hpid=topnews&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“Newsday | Long Island's & NYC's News Source - Newsday”>http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-britain-iran-public-patience,0,4999567.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Seeks diplomatic resolution to captured sailor crisis</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/04/ap_iran_british_070402/[/url]”>http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/04/ap_iran_british_070402/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/03/iran.sailors/index.html[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/03/iran.sailors/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Further ‘Confessions’ Won’t Be Broadcast, Tehran Officials Say</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200343.html?hpid=topnews[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200343.html?hpid=topnews&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Well, this didn’t take long. It’s all our fault. :rolleyes:</p>

<p><a href=“http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece[/url]”>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Watch for the Dims to demand hearings into whether Rove was responsible for ordering the raid. :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>^^^^^
Blame the hostage situation on Bush and Cheney. :rolleyes: And now here’s the rest of the story:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/03/iraq.iranians.ap/index.html[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/03/iraq.iranians.ap/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/04/ap_iran_britain_070403/[/url]”>http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/04/ap_iran_britain_070403/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Eh I wrote a long post then decided it would just cause political arguments… so I’ll stick with…</p>

<p>Europe is a sad and if anything this just promotes other countries to kidnap and attempt to brainwash other soldiers.</p>

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<p>Sorry for the length, I’m somewhat of a long-winded typer XD, and for the double post, couldn’t edit my previous one because of a time limit.</p>

<p>CWJones411: “60 F-14s”
DMeix: “And zero spare parts or qualified mechanics to go with them”</p>

<p>There was a show on the history channel a few weeks ago about this, they said when the Shah left the mechanics (which were American I believe, or loyal to the Shah/USA) they took out some of the computer parts in the jets making them inoperable as a fighter, I believe they can fly but their weapons systems won’t work. So they are pretty much useless. </p>

<p>Fligirl89: “I mean no disrespect but I really do get tired of seeing all of the political stuff posted on a section that is supposed to answer questions about USNA. It would be one thing if there had been a question within this topic about the politics on the yard?it was not asked but has been addressed on other threads and I really do know how to use the search feature. I will stand by my original thought?.shouldn?t the posts about world/American politics be over on the Parents Forum shouldn?t this be the place to get information and learn all we can about the Academy and the 4 years by the Bay?”</p>

<p>I don’t really see this as a political subject, this is more of a military conflict if you ask me, but I suppose everything has a political overtone/undertone to it. If anyone was joining the Navy (which you are doing by attending the USNA) I’m pretty sure they would want to know if they would have any protection against being captured. If I was captured and just left under Iranian “care” for weeks/months/years and the reason for it was some stupid politicians, I would definitely do some “hunting” if I got out… however unlikely that scenario might be, I do expect my government to do what they can, not sit around and just see what happens.</p>

<p>If you wanted to turn this into a political debate we could talk about Israel’s response to the capturing of their soldiers, and compare it to the British response. Or even our response in the Carter era and Reagan era. Thus far it really isn’t that much of a political debate, maybe it will turn into one later but that is later.</p>

<p>I do agree that this should be the place to get answers on the USNA/NAPS and other programs/experiences related to them, but some “political threads” should be discussed as they do pertain in some regard to life in the military. But idk, everything is political nowadays, going to USNA could be considered political, as you are supporting the military (hopefully), and I’m sure some SanFrans would dislike that and turn that into a political argument. </p>

<p>Not trying to be rude or anything as I am somewhat new here and maybe there have been a lot of politically charged threads before (I have read two, though they were somewhat stupid, Socialist and something about Conservative/Liberal mindsets at USNA).</p>

<p>I’m just bored and sometimes reading these threads keeps my interest for this area, plus no one seems to have much info for me! ;)</p>

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<p>We try to keep the politics to a minimum around here. We don’t always succeed, but we try.</p>

<p>What info do you need that you’re not getting? Plenty of well-informed folks here and at <a href=“http://www.serviceacademyforums.com%5B/url%5D”>www.serviceacademyforums.com</a>, so ask away. :)</p>

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<p>Ahh very nice =x thanks a bunch!</p>

<p>I was mainly looking for some comparison applications for those who are trying to receive/have received an appointment from college. Not too many of us so I believe that is why there isn’t that much info on it.</p>

<p>Btw, where does your name come from? I’ve seen the screenname Zaphod a few times so I’m curious hehe.</p>

<p>And the politics just make things interesting :stuck_out_tongue: I have no problem with it so long as people can stick to facts (hah?) lol. But I guess some people don’t like to talk about it.</p>

<p>(I’m noticing a lot of the same posters on this site, guess that is a good thing?)</p>

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<p>one of my favorite bloggers, Dean Barnett had this to say about the Iranian hostages…</p>

<p>"7) How is America involved?</p>

<p>The Iranians have been systematically testing the resolve of America’ s allies over the past several months. In response to Hezbollah’s provocations last summer, Israel fought back, although not as well or as capably as we’ve become accustomed to. Other than England, the rest of Europe has long been known as the lumbering ghosts of once great nations who made a pact with mediocrity decades ago. England, with its degraded Navy and equally degraded national will, has now officially joined their company.</p>

<p>8) Why didn’t Iran just kidnap 15 American soldiers? </p>

<p>That’s the question that no one seems to ask, especially those who consider Iran’s actions some sort of response to American wrong-doing. I’ve long argued in these virtual pages that George W. Bush scares the holy shinola out of the world’s bad men. If Iran tried this stunt on American troops, it’s hard to imagine President Bush being mindful of pleas to give diplomacy time to work. </p>

<p>This is where Bush is most effective as a wartime leader. For all his faults in communicating and building consensuses and crafting a coherent post-occupation strategy in Iraq, we’re fortunate to have him on that wall when the world’s bad men come calling.</p>

<p>9) So how does the situation play out?</p>

<p>Presumably, once Britain’s humiliation is complete, Iran will release the hostages. The international left will sing the praises of diplomacy, and marvel at how much more effective diplomacy is than the cowboy antics of America’s president. All the while, they will have no idea how this incident weakened the West.</p>

<p>10) How has it weakened the West? </p>

<p>Iran committed a clear act of war that went unanswered. Actually, were that only the case. England answered Iran’s act of war with tepid condemnations, desperate diplomacy and finally a belated effort by the ascendant English left to blame the whole thing on America. Ahmadenijad probably considers it a solid couple of weeks at the office."</p>

<p>interesting…</p>