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You make some excellent points. Our state flagship is on that list. About every third kid from our area goes there and I’m glad neither of my Ss were interested in it. That said, I’ve known of maybe half a dozen or so who have gone there and gotten into serious trouble. One of S1’s friends confided in him that the party scene starts to get old about the second year or so and by the time they graduate, most don’t partake in it (much.) </p>