Sorry for the mess up about the baseball and basketball.
I said PA, not PT. OP is also interested in PA. If you make into quinnipiac PA, chances are you are qualified for the max scholarship. The outcomes of quinnipiac PA are stated on its website. $97,000 Avg starting salary is based on last year’s stats.
Here is info from Quinnipiac’s website regarding their PA program. https://www.qu.edu/schools/health-sciences/programs/mhs-physician-assistant.html
Okay, I provide more info than its website.
Use this list, and select the keycode for “program admits students at the freshman level”
http://aptaapps.apta.org/accreditedschoolsdirectory/AllPrograms.aspx?UniqueKey=
It looks like Shenandoah University is the warmest-weather school on this list, and it does have D3 baseball.
I hope you understand that ALL of the direct entry students at Quinnipiac do NOT get me scholarships from the college. They just don’t.
And regardless…the question is…can a PA or PT student play college interscholastic sports while studying to be a PT or PA?
Quinnipiac baseball is division one. Division ONE. Most players will be recruited athletes. They will be expected to devote just about every minute of their “free time” to their sport. And NO the college won’t give them a bye on the required courses for the PA or PT program…or the shadowing requirement.
That PA program REQUIRES a ton of shadowing hours which are done as part of the program. No exceptions made! None.
Slippery Rock University?
The players I know at Misericordia are younger, starting junior year. Lost track of the fball players, but I know the lax player is still playing. Can’t speak to his grades or the schedule as we’re not that close. He was direct admit because that was why he chose the school.
I don’t believe the PT or PA program ps at Slippery Rock are direct admit. They are grad programs and one applies when one is completing the bachelors.
Chapman would be a great warm-weather D3 school with a DPT program, but there’s no guaranteed-entry. Then again, doing a full four-year undergrad program would allow more time for baseball.
I wasn’t suggesting that the programs would not require the shadowing requirements to be completed, only that either the baseball program or the shadowing schedule could be flexible. If the student can only shadow on MTW, they may make that happen. I don’t know if PT programs are more rigid than nursing programs, but there are a lot of nursing programs with varsity athletes and they make it work.
Look at Wingate College NC, Rockhurst in Kansas City, or Regis in Denver (Div 2). Look at the community colleges in Florida, like Sante Fe. They play JUCO baseball and it’s connected to UF. I don’t know how the 3+3 programs work, but from the chart posted in #23, it doesn’t look like there are a lot of them anywhere, with or without baseball.
@twoinanddone I believe it really depends on the sport how flexible they can be with their practice requirements . When I went to OT school, we had 30 students in the program and we took all of our classes together . There was no flexibility, especially when we had to do clinicals and observation. We had strict attendance policies which may be hard to meet if travel is required for the sport. Students typically carry 15-18 credits per semester with many science classes that have labs. It is a very time consuming program with very little flexibility. That’s been my personal experience , as well as the interns that I have supervised .
I agree with others that if playing baseball is crucial that a direct entry program may not be the best route to PT or PA programs. An undergrad degree then transfer may be a better option.
@carolinamom2boys, was your OT an undergrad program?
I’m another allied health professions person…a speech pathologist. Like OT, the flexibility in courses just isn’t there. We had clinical requirements and we were assigned these around class time…not other things. Courses were taken in a specific very inflexible sequence. Many science lab courses as well as the clinical work.
I did undergrad and then grad both in speech pathology. Neither had any flexibility in schedule.
And we had clinical assignments on weekends in grad school. No choice.
If this student really wants to play college interscholastic baseball, perhaps he should get an undergrad degree…and play baseball. Then apply to PA or PT programs as a grad student. His grades will need to be tippy top.
But then he could play ball year round during undergrad…and then concentrate on his PT or PA studies later.
At Quinnipiac, there are usually 800+ applying for 70 direct admit PA spots at undergraduate level. Unlike other PA schools, they don’t do waitlist admission.
This year, 40 enrolled. So this leaves only 10 spots for graduate admission and there are about 1800+ applications each year. The admit rate at graduate level is 10/1800 = 0.6%. A few years ago, there were 25 graduate spots each year.
Overall, the combined admit rate is 80/2600=3% for this year’s class.
This year, there are at least four asian students enrolled, or 10% of this year’s cohort.
@ewho there are other schools for PA throughout the country that are not direct entry programs where the student could apply for admission. Believe me, I’m well aware of the competitiveness of admission to OT, PT, PA and SLP programs. 3+3 programs come with their own issues. They’re only beneficial if the student is absolutely sure of their major. If they are not, I recommend going the traditional route of getting an undergrad degree and then applying to grad school. If you enter a 3+3 program and change your mind, you are left without a degree or additional years of school to complete a degree.
@twoinanddone yes, my program was an undergrad program.I train OT and work with PT students on a regular basis and am familiar with the requirements and vigorous nature of the programs.
^^ My statements are not arguments but strictly info for the OP if she goes this route. It is very true that they could make mistakes for giving up schools like northeastern with scholarship or pharmacy schools for the PA program. Everything needs to be right to pursue this path.
@ewho admissions to programs are not simply a matter of statistics. It is a wholistic admissions process. Yes, GPA and test scores are extremely important, but so are volunteer experiences. Quite a few schools also have an interview requirement. Without knowing more about the student’s statistics, I can’t even address scholarships. The applicant pool for these programs is very competitive, and a student would have to stand out for scholarship opportunities. They are not as plentiful as one would think. I am also trying to provide the OP with info to assist her son in the decision making process.
Pharmacy school? Where did that come from? PA is Physician Assistant…not pharmacy.
The OP mentions both PT and PA options. In both cases, if one I’d a direct admit to the program, they can’t switch from PT to PA or PA to PT. Since it sounds like both options are under consideration…AND the student wants to play baseball…I would suggest NOT doing a direct admit program.
Get an undergrad degree…do the requisite shadowing and courses. Enjoy playing baseball for the school. Then apply to PT or PA programs as a grad student.
@ewho there are a TON of these PT and PA programs that are grad school programs only…not direct admit like Quinnipiac.
Actually…most programs are NOT direct admit.