@Iglooo, sadly I suspect that UCLA is trying to read what public opinion is before following whatever is in its own best interest.
^^Nah, my guess is that they are weighing business/donations vs pr. If the Bruins suspend for a year, that hurts the chances of the team to make some cash in March Madness. Also, year-long suspension may tick off papa Baller so much that #3 son goes elsewhere.
In other words, if you are special, you are above the law. Didn’t we know it!
trump tweeted that he should have left them in jail: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/19/trump-basketball-china-jail-248511
Yeah, I’m still uncomfortable.
A 1 and done PITA or take a great kid who can play for 3-4 years and be a great teammate?? No brainer to me. Take your kid down the road to UNLV or Kentucky.
Two of the biggest egos on Twitter! Trump and Ball. Trump should’ve never responded that was exactly what Ball wanted. I’m sure a lot of folk knew nothing of Ball now he is getting exposure.
Basketball players are often ‘One and Done’ because the NBA allows it (look at the U of Kentucky). These do not seem like 4 years of college type of kids.
UCLA is still hopeful these kids will join the team THIS year. I think they’ll be back in Jan.
Again, I had a child who shoplifted at 19. There was absolutely no reason that he should have. He didn’t have any financial problems. We are a family that stresses hard work and honestly. Yet…he did it? Why? Yes, they know right from wrong. So why do they do it then? What is the reason. I truly believe it’s still an underdeveloped brain, risky behavior is a symptom. Throw in the pack mentality of teenage boys…oh geez.
I’m not excusing these boys. I think there should be serious consequences. The parent sound like a piece of work. I still stand by not throwing them in a foreign prison. But something needs to be done. My son had serious consequences. Today at 25, he is a different person than 6 years ago in so many respects. We saw him grow up and mature year by year. Thebrainmatured.
Assuming that’s true, then maybe you shouldn’t let your boys travel overseas until they’re 25 or whatever age you think their brains are finally developed.
We may think foreign laws are draconian, but the US doesn’t get to set foreign laws. If these had been normal people, instead of ultra-privileged basketball players, it’s doubtful the State department would have moved heaven and earth to get these people released so quickly.
There was a short article on Yahoo last week about an American who is in jail in China waiting for a trial. He was an American Football player in China teaching football and English. He was involved in a bar fight and seriously injured someone, and the lawyers want $100k from his parents to make the matter go away.
No one from the state department is stepping in.
Maybe I’m a sucker, but I’m glad they’re out of China. No doubt they had no realization of how tough the consequences would be.
I don’t think anyone should be a jerk about it, not Trump, not the players, nor their parents. Just learn from it, and don’t screw up again.
I really don’t think we have any idea how much earth did or didn’t have to be moved.
That’s right, we don’t know. China hosted this NCAA game in order to promote itself and its products. This was a promotional event. It’s bad for business to hold high-profile Americans in prison. Sending them home served everybody’s interests.
If teen brains are so underdeveloped that they don’t know right from wrong, then why on earth are we allowing them to drive? To attend school without mommy and daddy?
Oh geez. She’s just saying they can be more prone to making bad decisions. There’s a lot written about the slower brain development.
So far, they learned that they can steal and expect everyone to fawn over them and that they are exempt from consequences.
To me a ‘kid’ who ‘makes a mistake’ is a 13 year old who spontaneously grabs a chocolate bar from a shop. Even then you have to come down on them like a ton of bricks so they will never do anything like that again.
Three men of 17, 18, and 19 years who form a gang to rob multiple stores of expensive items - that’s no mistake. Jail time would have been the only way to set them straight.
Kicking them off the team would work. But it looks like the school is trying to avoid that, so yes, they’ll learn that they are exempt from consequences.
Does anyone here think any of our kids would have received this special treatment? Of course not. I’m done with excusing privileged men (and yes,they are men not kids) who make poor choices. Maybe if they weren’t always enabled by those rescuing them, they would make better choices.
I am so beyond the delayed brain development argument. Seriously, tens of thousands of men this age have managed to successfully defend us in the d-day invasion, marry, support a family, and hold a responsible job. In some countries outside the US, they still do manage to do all those things at that age. If one is given almost all adult rights, then one accepts the legal liabilities that ensue. Brains may continue to change until 30 or even 50, but at some point we as a society to say it is developed enough-currently we set that at 18.