<p>Does Duke University have liability insurance to cover the cost of 38 lawsuits should there be a judgments or settlements in the cases? Sounds like an awful lot of money, esp when settlements have been made to 3 others! It will be interesting to see what unfolds in terms of finances.</p>
<p>DukeEgr93 Someone earlier asked for examples of credentials they considered lacking. I cited on example off the top of my head at Duke. The other example is directly related to the work I do. The errors in the Disinvestment article can be explained in two or three sentences on this thread if necessary. My issues with more than a dozen articles in Transforming Anthropology are beyond the scope of this thread but in general deal with not using original source materials. I have access to the source documents why can’t a professor drive about three miles to use the same stuff?</p>
<p>Don’t you find it a little unsettling I remember a shoddy article and after you challenge me on it I find it at the top Charles Piot’s list of publications? </p>
<p>You may remember my comment you’re in the presence of true evil” on Duke’s campus. I’m waiting for discovery and trial to find out who these evil people are. I’m thinking these civil rights cases are like Watergate. You seem to be hoping they will be like Whitewater. Either way Duke University can’t win because the last lawsuit is about revenge. Damage my reputation and I’m going to destroy yours.</p>
<p>There is an AICPA Technical Issues Committee meeting in Durham in May. I may check out the evil myself.</p>
<p>You seem to be making an assumption about what I want from the civil cases. To clarify - I want the 47 men and their families to get access to as much truth as they possibly can. Three feel that they already have, three feel they can do it through other means, and 41 are going this route.</p>
<p>I believe there is much that is discoverable, and I pray, for the good of this institution, that it is indeed discovered and brought into he light of day; and where there are cases that employees of the institution acted in ways that actively or passively contributed to a hostile educational environment or in ways that contributed to an increased threat of physical harm, I want those people gone. I also want the men and their families to recover whatever damages our court system can fairly establish for the ways in which they were themselves damaged by the actions of Duke employees and City employees and officials.</p>
<p>You seem to be accusing me of wanting a coverup. I hope I have disabused anyone of that notion.</p>
<p>However, I refuse to see these as a plebiscite for the validity or integrity of particular disciplines or departments. mam’s post cited a lack of academic credential; the refutation of that post goes unanswered. I commented on your post because I tried to look up a journal I thought you were citing as proof.</p>
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<p>First, I “challenged” you on the comment, “There is a Black Journal of Cultural Anthropology published on the West Coast.” Surely we can agree that such a journal does not exist?</p>
<p>Second, and unlike many people with respect to the lacrosse case, I cannot judge the relative merits of the article you cite without reading both them and your objections to them. I’m assuming one of the particular articles to which you refer is, “Bleeding Albina: A History of Community Disinvestment, 1940-2000,” by Karen J. Gibson at Portland State?</p>
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<p>Having not heard from mam1959, I shall assume that the broad swipe at the intellectual and professional integrity of the Duke faculty was made without substantiation and has no merit.</p>
<p>I also hope this matter serves as a warning to others that Duke’s lacrosse team - and other teams across the country - made it way too easy to believe the allegations because they had a history of acting like a bunch of hoodlums. They were, at times, out of control and not enough had been done to rein them in. Because of their reputation, there weren’t enough people willing to go to bat for them and say “not these boys.” This doesn’t excuse Nifong and it doesn’t excuse the extreme reaction of Duke, but, as a group, they had done little off the field to bank any good will. The team, the coach and the university showed an incredible lack of leadership long before this incident. Too bad expectations were so low.</p>
<p>cartera45 - I think one of the things lost from the initial rush to judgment was the ability to have a real conversation about the issues you describe. Basically, once “wanted posters” went up on campus - definitely put there and possible created by those in employ of the school - and once it was clear that the rights of the players were out the window, the legitimacy in also criticizing them went as well. Now that the attorney general and his team have gone through the evidence, or lack there of, the conversation can go in that direction. </p>
<p>However, I cringe at anything that starts with, “well, if they hadn’t had that party none of this would have happened.” (not that you said that, I’m just continuing my thought) Because being accused of rape by a mentally unstable person with five or more inconsistent stories, and then having a rogue prosecutor on the campaign trail turn it into a national media circus despite information that contraindicates his statements, aided and abetted by various constituencies with different axes to grind, do not comprise what I would consider reasonable expectations from such a party…</p>
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Substitute “she was” for “they were” and “her” for “them.” Ooops. We’re not alllowed in this politically correct culture. Yet despite her history, she had loads of people going to bat for her & using her as a pawn for political gain. </p>
<p>Criminal prosecutions shouldn’t rest on whether or not the accused has a bank of good will. The presence of hard evidence is a much better catalyst, don’t you think?</p>
<p>Sticker - of course, no one has said otherwise.</p>
<p>"Does Duke University have liability insurance to cover the cost of 38 lawsuits "</p>
<p>Almost certainly. Their corporate counsel is asleep at the wheel if they don’t.</p>
<p>^With the cost of tuition at all time highs, let’s hope there is enough to cover this, as I would not want tuition to cover this–sounds like it may need to come from some individuals’ pockets!</p>
<p>DukeEgr93 I get paid to make judgments so here goes starting with the case.
For someone to believe a sexual assault took place you had to: Have never been in a house like the one on 610 North Buchanan Blvd. believe the stripper and believe the Durham Police. If you do I consider you a second class citizen intellectually. Say I believe the Durham Police it sounds even worse. </p>
<p>For a guy with a corner office in a CPA firm I’m pretty proud of what I’ve had published over the years. As it applies to tenure I believe in the thud test. If you can’t drop a scholarly monograph on your department chair’s desk you don’t deserve tenure. Important because at the time of the listening ad 15 of the Group of 88 had not published a monograph, they should not be eligible for tenure or have tenure until they do. I would have to have published extensively and be an expert in some part of Tax to even be considered for a tenure track position.</p>
<p>As for academic journals I apply a two pronged incomprehensible test. Does it read like ERISA or sound like Billy Madison? Dr. Piot’s article, “KC’s World,” fails the Billy Madison test. Read it and you feel dumber.</p>
<p>My disagreements with Karen Gibson simply involve gentrification. For you to pass judgment on my arguments get a copy of “Does Gentrification Harm the Poor” by Jacob Vigdor he’s in Rubenstein Hall. His research and Lance Freeman’s of Columbia are basis for my position on the subject. </p>
<p>I also believe in a hierarchy of college professors. Engineering, Business and the Sciences are on top. Cultural Anthology exists as easy grades to fill out elective requirements nothing more. One of many things I learned from helping kids get into engineering schools then providing a little help here and there with university bureaucracies.</p>
<p>I didn’t accuse you of wanting a cover up I said I believed you wanted a Whitewater type outcome. A whole bunch of people got pretty muddy in the Whitewater affair and a couple got hosed off and made to look clean again. I think you would like to have none other than Duke Assistant Vice President for Student Affairs and Dean of Students Suzanne Wasiolek made to look clean again. Her issues are right in my wheelhouse since I served a term on a bar disciplinary committee as a public member appointed by the governor. The suit by 38 players alleges she violated duties owed to non clients. I believe she may have created an attorney client relationship by her actions. This is very possible under both the statues and common law because she gave specific advice on a specific set of facts. If my version prevails she would subject to bar discipline and a malpractice suit for failing to represent the players properly. She could get whipsawed. She could be found liable in the civil suit for dealings with the players as non clients, face charges with bar and a malpractice suit for failing to exercise due care because she created an attorney client relationship. See how this could get out of control? Even if she dodges wrong doing she still is an estate attorney giving criminal law advice. Again it sounds worse if you say it out loud.</p>
<p>I find your nitpicking rather humorous. We all know what plebiscite means but it is still the wrong word to use. Capitalization is an adventure on a computer as small as a Nokia N810, sorry. I didn’t know you were interested in urban revitalization. And last I can’t wait to hear you try defending Dean Sue.</p>
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<p>Don’t know how you came to believe what you do about me, but for that line and for
I have to respectfully tell you that the “free” judgments are so off in this thread that I’d have a very hard time considering paying for the wisdom that comes from the corner office in your firm. Maybe it is true that you get what you pay for.</p>
<p>^^ Good post. Anyone who has to point out that they are in a corner office doesn’t belong in one.</p>
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<p>I just wanted to repeat this, in case anyone was tempted to take anything you said seriously.</p>
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