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<p>I was curious about this issue and went to the best source I can find, namely my father who is a Belgian monarchy expert. The title Baron or Baroness bestwowed to a non-noble person is a huge honor, and it is extremely rare. When inherited, it is reserved to people who have served their country at the highest level in business, sports, or academia. Think about Eddy Merckx, the best rider of all times and perhaps most known Belgian with Tintin and the Smurfs. </p>

<p>Considering the amazing accomplishments of Belgians in sciences, the fact that Ingrid Daubechies received such title is a huge honor. And one on much higher scale than the British Dame. </p>

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<p>We still arguing? If not “role model,” pick another term you like. </p>

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You are going to make us wonder if you and cobrat are cousins.</p>

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<p>Touché!</p>

<p>But what is wrong with asking a native and … telling who he actually is! Not a figment of my imagination. I guess I should have simply pretended I knew the stuff. Actually I knew about Tintin and the Smurfs from visiting the Museum in Belgium! :)</p>

<p>But I could rewrite it in a Cobrat style:</p>

<p>Here we go:</p>

<p>Thinking that a Belgian Baron is not higher than a British Dame would make my dozens of cousins with whom I recently discussed the finer points of nobility in Belgium laugh hysterically, and especially the ones who are teaching at the local universities. They told me that they were floored by the lack of interest of recent graduates from Belgian high schools in their own history. </p>

<p>Would that work? </p>

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<p>Well, I did acknowledge that a Baroness is higher than a Dame , but you know, there’s nothing like a Dame! And I ,alas, did not have any cousins to consult on the issue </p>

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<p>Sevmom, I was not contradicting you, but merely adding that the rarity made the title bestowed to the mathematician exceptional. For instance, the Papy husband and wife team did not receive such honor, in spite of their massive contributions to Modern Mathematics. </p>

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Hey, I’ve been to that museum! It’s pretty cool. In fact, I have this object on my desk: <a href=“http://www.i-magier.com/dyn/img_produits/moyen_887.jpg”>http://www.i-magier.com/dyn/img_produits/moyen_887.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>@gravitas2, In addition to Elizabeth Holmes at Theranos, some of the other 47 women listed in the link I posted (#1092), also cofounded companies . Some examples: Paula Long (DataGravity and EqualLogic), Laura Mather( SilverTail), Holly Liu (Kabam)., Diane Greene (VMware). </p>

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<p>Thank you @sevmom. Did not see that…</p>

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<p>@gravitas2 Thank you for bringing Elizabeth Holmes into the mix (@xiggi do you know her - seems like fellow texan from your time frame).</p>

<p>Sounds like she will be changing the healthcare industry at the age of 30.</p>

<p><a href=“This CEO's out for blood | Fortune”>http://fortune.com/2014/06/12/theranos-blood-holmes/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>No insult intended to cobrat, but your post #1103 is hysterically funny, xiggi!</p>

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<p>@texaspg. If your daughter no longer wants to go to med school and still be in “healthcare”…she might want to look into getting a job at Theranos before they issue their IPO…if you know what I mean :wink: </p>

<p>…remember, Marissa Mayer was originally a premed before discovering CS/Symbolic Systems and getting an early “job” as 1st female engineer at Google before becoming CEO of Yahoo…</p>

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<p>Sue22, #1093, you remarked that “when we fail to give girls broad, modern lists we give them the impression that women working in science are a rarity.”</p>

<p>If you look at the faculty of top university departments, women are a rarity right now. </p>

<p>I took a look at Berkeley’s Department of Mathematics: <a href=“All Faculty | Department of Mathematics at University of California Berkeley”>All Faculty | Department of Mathematics at University of California Berkeley;

<p>The visuals are stunning enough on that web site, but here is a list of the first names of the non-retired faculty (not subdivided by rank Assistant/Associate/Full/Various Chairs):</p>

<p>Men (57): Ian, David, Denis, Richard, Jeff, Michael, James, David, Craig, Steven, Edward, Alexander, Ming, Mark, Ole, Alan, Michael, Richard, Michael, Lin, Gang, John, Antonio, David, Arthur, Martin, Lior, Alexander, Per-Olof, James, Nicolai, Fraydoun, John, Kenneth, Marc, Thomas, Peter, James, Vivek, Sug Woo, Theodore, Nikhil, John, John, Bernd, Hongbin, Daniel, Peter, Constantin, Dan-Virgil, Paul, Jon, Mariusz, Hugh, Xinyi, Yan, Maciej</p>

<p>Women (8): Mina, Jenny, Olga, Kathryn, Vera, Chris, Katrin, Lauren</p>

<p>The Berkeley page has pictures of retired faculty, in the same grouping with the non-retired faculty. They are:</p>

<p>Professors Emeriti (41): John, Robert, Grigory, George, Elwyn, Robert, Paul, Alexandre, Paul, Heinz, Stephen, Jacob, Alberto, Leo, Robin, Morris, Wu-Yi, Vaughan, William, Robion, Tsit-Yuen, Sherman, Hendrik, Ralph, Keith, Calvin, John, Andrew, Beresford, Charles, Rainr, Donald, Ichiro, Jack, Isadore, Stephen, Robert, John, Alan, Joseph, Hung-Shi</p>

<p>Professor Emerita (1): Marina</p>

<p>So, on the one hand, the situation is definitely better, as the F/M ratio on the faculty now is higher than it was in the past.</p>

<p>I might have a clerical error or two, or a counting error, but this is more or less right.</p>

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<p>To follow up, looking at the people listed on the Berkeley math department site who are not tenure-stream faculty as far as I can tell:</p>

<p>Visiting faculty, male: Haskell, Alexandru, Dana (male), Martin, Raphael
Visiting faculty, female: Mariya, Zvezdelina</p>

<p>In the list of post-docs, if there is some special category of post-doc, it is listed in parentheses after the name.</p>

<p>Post-docs, male: Dominik, Marius, Ivan, Tim, , James (NSF), Matthew (RTG), Kenji (RTG), Andrew (NSF), David (NSF), Fei (LBL), Takuya (JSPS), Madhusudan, Alexander, Matthias, Jason (NSF), Analoly (NSF), Adam
Post-docs, female: Atoshi (RTG), Mihaela</p>

<p>There is also a particular category of post-doc at Berkeley, desginated Miller Research Fellow.
Male: Kestutis, Sung-Jin, Steven
Female:</p>

<p>There is one “Affiliated Professor,” Alan, and one Lecturer, “Alexander.”</p>

<p>This pretty much completes the list. </p>

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<p>So depending on how you parse words (sorry, lf), you might consider women to be a “rarity” or not.</p>

<p>I certainly understand that there are many places to work in mathematics outside the “top” university math departments! I do not mean to slight the many other employment possibilities for mathematicians, including business, government, teaching, high-tech, finance, and many possibilities that are further out. I do not mean to offer a “STEM or bust,” “University or bust,” or any other kind of " . . . or bust" thought.</p>

<p>Nonetheless, I think that the extreme gender imbalance in mathematics departments at top universities poses a special challenge to young women who might like to go into math. Berkeley is hardly alone in this respect. You can look at the web sites for Harvard or Princeton and see much the same thing–aside from the fact that there is one woman mathematician who was claimed by both Harvard and Princeton, the last time I looked.</p>

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<p>Too late to edit, but in post #1112, “Rainr” should be “Rainer”</p>

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<p>I took a look at the ranks of the people in the Berkeley mathematics department. I noticed that I accidentally counted one Professor Emeritus on the list of non-retired faculty. so there are only 56 men.</p>

<p>The counts are:
Full Professors: Men 42, Women 5 (Berkeley is doing better than many in this regard.)
Associate Professors: Men 5, Women 2
Assistant Professors: Men 9, Women 2</p>

<p>Morrey Assistant Professors: Men 5, Women 1 (included in the numbers of Assistant Professors above.)</p>

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<p>If that was addressed to me, I’d like to pick Baron Xiggi. Since Belgium is not about to give it to me, perhaps CClandia will be kinder! </p>

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<p>@xiggi, Personally, I think you can do better than Baron. Don’t sell yourself short. Belgium is one of the few monarchies in the world in which ennoblement still occurs . Count is the highest ranked title still granted by the Belgian monarch (at least that’s what Wikipedia says ). Jacques Rogge (President of the International Olympic Committee) was made a Count in 2002. Others have been made Viscount , also above a Baron. So, if I were you, I’d lobby for Count Xiggi.</p>

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<p>Xiggi, I get now.
Anyway, apparently you can/could buy a Scottish feudal title. But I think we’d need to personally address you as “Lord.” Isn;t there a CC store? Maybe they can sell titles.</p>