<p>Haha, true! But look at how many people graduate from those few elite schools vs how many graduate from “somewhere else”. Chances are that you will be working with or for some people from “other” places. So don’t make any Northeast Montana State jokes to your boss until you are sure he (or his wife or brother or friend) didn’t go there. It’s just not too socially adroit.</p>
<p>lol yes, i had a friend who did that when applying for an internship. it is quite likely that the people who will be your boss did not to one of those 2-3 schools. he didn’t get the internship either btw LOL.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry if my tone came off as condescending. Perhaps I said somethings the wrong way. My point is just that a 4.0 means different things coming from different schools. And you just said my point entirely: there are so few graduates coming from elite schools than graduates coming from average schools. That’s why I feel like people at the elite schools have an edge. Not because of the name, but because they were thrown into a pressure-cooker environment with the best students in the country. After leaving places like Mudd, Caltech, and Berkeley the business world shouldn’t be as stressful or difficult. Obviously at my job I know that everything starts over once again. I’d have to prove myself all over again and my college means nothing after I land that first job. </p>
<p>Also I really do think I could get stoned every day and still get a 4.0 at an average (really average) school considering I get stoned like three times a week here and I’m fine even though we have tons of work. It wasn’t meant to be an insult. I have friends who I was smarter than in high school who get high every day at places like Miami of Ohio (way above average still) and get like 3.9’s.</p>
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<p>Not another my school is better than yours thread.</p>
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<p>If just saying a true comment that’s based on evidence and logic makes me an arrogant jerk then I’m fine with it. I don’t see the problem.</p>
<p>Having a very high GPA means that you know how to please the graders; whether that is through major ass-kissing or sheer hard work. It says nothing on your intelligence, personality or character.</p>
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<p>LOL, good one!</p>
<p>Whether or not some one appears to be arrogant is not the point of this thread, and atomicfusion can either accept that he appears that way to some people or not. But in all fairness to the OP,
I agree with this. Of course it’s a good thing to get the best gpa you can, but it is not the only thing. Employers will look for additional skills and personality attributes that will allow a person to fit into the existing organization and employee set.</p>
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<p>In many disciplines, pleasing the graders involves getting the correct answers. The ability to do that says a lot about you.</p>
<p>Jeepers, people. Get a grip. Your GPA is fully dependent on what your course of study is. Someone in engineering will have a lower GPA than, say, someone in Basketweaving. It doesn’t matter what school you go to, if it’s an accredited engineering program, you will have to bust chops for a B. I’d much rather hire someone who knows how to stretch and work hard and get help if they need it to crack a tough subject, than someone who grabbed an A average and did not stretch. Employers recognize this. The sciences, mathematics, medical fields - all require a sort of intensity that makes it hard to get a high GPA. I’d much rather see someone work their butts off and get a C than stay within their comfort zone and get an A.</p>
<p>I believe it is, because if they are IN college, it is becuase they WANT to be there, showing that they care about there education, and are capable of attaining a good grade if they care.</p>
<p>“This thread is full of kids that couldn’t pull a C in general chemistry and now major in marketing and are bitter about it.”</p>
<p>Objection: Not true. I can’t even get a D in general chemistry. I’m not bitter about it; in fact, I’m quite proud of the fact that I can acknowledge it, even make fun of myself for it, and move on. I’m an econ major because I LIKE econ, not because I can’t pass chem.</p>
<p>As for those guys from engineering schools at Mudd or whatever, I’m sick and tired of hearing how hard your majors are, how grade deflated they are, whatever. Get over yourselves. YOU decided to go into engineering, YOU decided to go to CalTech, MIT or whatever, YOU decided to major in a hard science, knowing FULL WELL that it’s going to be incredibly difficult and grade-deflated. Stop whining. I’m not talking to anyone specifically here, but I’m sick and tired of hearing about how their 3.0 in engineering is worth more than a 3.8 or something in econ because engineering is SOOO HARD. You’re not going to hear about me whining when I go to law school, because I made the decision to go to law school knowing FULL WELL that law school is hard.</p>
<p>Too bad you’re going to be working for econ majors…you won’t be working for me, because I’m gonna be a corporate lawyer, but yeah.</p>
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Working for econ majors? Where does that come from. I can’t imagine that is rather common except in i-banking. Engineers work for other engineers with more experience. Engineering management is a majority of engineers, especially engineers who later got MBA’s. </p>
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<p>It’s true that some majors are harder than others, but I agree that different majors at the same institution shouldn’t be that different in difficulty. A degree in the same major will definitely vary in difficulty from school to school, though, and I think that’s really overlooked. Even if the classes have intrinsically the same difficulty, just the fact that the average student is smarter will make it much more difficult to get the same grade at a harder school.</p>
<p>in conclusion, engineering rules and everything else drools</p>
<p>Engineering will kick your ass. And let you be an engineer, woopty doo</p>
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<p>on the contrary it sounds to me like you’re still bitter about it 
oh and most engineers work for other engineers with more experience except in i-banking.</p>
<p>punkdudeus, I disagree. If I needed to hire an engineer, I’d pick the best one. Sure, some people hire because they like the person, especially in jobs that require more socialization, but there are many jobs where social skills are less relevant. I would hire based on ability, not based on whether I could have a drink with the person while chatting about fiber optics.</p>
<p>I think that social skills really help when you are trying to decide between two people with almost identical stats.</p>
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<p>What determines the “best”? Just a GPA on a piece of paper? It’s much more dynamic than that I’d hope.</p>