The AAU survey also, separately, asks about various nonconsensual sexual contacts not necessarily involving force or incapacitation. For example,
I haven’t included those in the discussion, although I assume that everyone here (almost everyone?) would agree that someone initiating sexual penetration despite the other person’s refusal would be committing rape.
More accurately, it would be the perception of the person answering the survey question or really any question that they had been raped or were forced to do something they didn’t want to do. But then this IS a “perception” survey from which someone could draw many conclusions.
Check out the Slate article below.
The article details many of the reasons why these surveys probably do significantly overstate the risks.
I think this is a pretty true statement from that above article. If any rationale person believed what is being tossed around out of perception surveys they would not send daughters to sleep away colleges.
Plenty of women go to the bars in any town I’ve ever lived in, even though going to bars alone results in a much higher chance of sexual assault than not going to them at all.
Really, I think the error in the quoted claim is the assumption that any human being is actually really rational.
Ha, ha, you may very well be correct.
Yup, women shouldn’t go to bars or college. I always thought that women were brave to go places and fight for higher education, but now I understand they are irrational. Silly things belong in the kitchen where they are safe.
Sarcasm aside, gender equality means equal rights, opportunities AND responsibilities.
Pretty good evidence that these college surveys way over-state the size of the problem. But they can be useful for base-lining and benchmarking.
Also good evidence that the risks on campus are the same (or likely lower) than what non-college student women experience. Which, imho, explains why parents continue to be willing to pay to send their daughters to residential coed colleges.
Given the prevalence of heli-parenting these days, I don’t think that wouldn’t happen if actual experience was anywhere near what these surveys nominally state.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-pc-brown-high-school-sexual-assaults-20151001-story.html
“California mandates new high school classes to prevent sexual assaults”
I’d be in favor of those classes if they worked. But the only kind of classes I know about that seem to work (and the study wasn’t huge) were the classes in the Canada/ Syracuse study. What kind of evidence do we have that the mandated California classes reduce sexual assault?
@socalmom23 Education seems like the most sensible approach. At work it’s surprising how many adults clearly don’t get how sexual harassment works. So it would seem an even a greater stretch to expect all young men to have a clear sense of boundaries around a topic that’s essentially taboo to discuss in many parts of the country or the world.