<p>Hopefully the Coen Bros will get the movie rights. They haven’t had killers this bumbing since Fargo…</p>
<p>Hernandez is obviously so stupid it makes you wonder how he even could figure out which direction to run with the football after he caught a pass.</p>
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<p>I’m not up to date on the details of nfl compensation these days, but there was an article that said essentially the same thing. It made me wonder if the Patriots made a calculation regarding a wrongful death civil suit that somehow they might be named as enabling the crime, and decided to quickly vaccinate themselves against that possibility. Ridiculous, I know, but they have a lot more money than Aaron Hernandez has, and are the closest associated deep pocket. </p>
<p>It also has that added benefit of sending the message to your players that if you screw up large enough, you are on your own, and in deep trouble. That’s as it should be.</p>
<p>A sad ending to a young life and a waste of talent. My Ss are huge Patriot fans and Aaron Dobson, a local boy from S1’s school was a second-round draft pick for them. I was hoping they wouldn’t turn anything up on the guy.</p>
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Well said, Dadx. So many sports teams try to make excuses when their players and coaches break the law.</p>
<p>I think the Patriots just decided they didn’t want to remain associated with him in any way through a long drawn-out trial, even if it cost them some money. And they could feel this is covered by their contract.</p>
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<p>Look dude all I wrote was a single line containing 11 words, namely “Cops in Mass surely love the limelight and the media attention.” Nothing more, nothing else. And surely not enough to warrant all that non-sense about what I think should have happened to Hernandez, or if the police acted appropriately in their investigation, or if they had to show respect for the privacy of the arrested. </p>
<p>All I know is that this has been a circus from the unveiling of the expected charges. What has it been? A week or so. Do all the crimes in that area get that much coverage? Oh yes, it is about a NFL player! Again, the cops in Mass seem to like the limelight. </p>
<p>Carry on!</p>
<p>I doubt we’re gonna have another Detective Mark Furman in this murder case involving an NFL player.</p>
<p>well, “dude,” (really?) - what exactly did the POLICE do in THIS case to warrant your opinion that Massachusetts cops love the limelight and media attention. I’m not the only poster that doesn’t get it. </p>
<p>We agree that the media love this case because it’s an NFL player. I also happen to agree that some of the authorities (the mayor and governor, and political office candidates, in particular, but not necessarily every uniformed police officer working the case, which i think is totally unfair) in the Boston bombing case were embarrassing in their effusive self-congratulatory behavior. I also do not think the cops always get everything right, either, and I’ve had my issues with police behavior in general before. But…</p>
<p>But we’re talking about the Hernandez case. You seem completely hung up on this issue. What exactly are the cops supposed to do differently so they aren’t seeking the “limelight?” Why should this suspect be allowed preferential, quiet treatment? There WERE no charges until today, they quietly went about investigating what they had on him (an abundance of investigation and evidence, apparently) without ANY leaks to the press, they did not once speak to any member of the media even remotely close to substantively in the entire 9 days since the murder, and they did not leak the actual charges in advance of the arraignment this afternoon (contrary to your prior post). </p>
<p>So how is the media circus the cops’ fault??</p>
<p>You can say it’s “nothing more, nothing less” and not back up your opinion, but don’t be surprised when other posters call you on your snarky post(s).</p>
<p>I really don’t get how you get from “Do all the crimes in that area get that much coverage?” to "Again, the cops in Mass seem to like the limelight. "</p>
<p>The cops don’t control the media.</p>
<p>And yes, all crimes that are the least bit sensational involving any kind of celebrity or 1%-er get this kind of coverage.</p>
<p>I think xiggi just don’t like the po-po.</p>
<p>LOL notrichenough.</p>
<p>interesteddad, I was actually thinking the same thing, no joke, though. How could someone apparently so dumb (given the clues he left behind in his (alleged!) involvement in the murder of a friend) be able to grasp what, by many accounts, is an incredibly complex and demanding offensive scheme? Hernandez did his fair share of blocking in addition to his receiver responsibilities, so it wasn’t like he just had to learn a few plays and call it a day. If he’s smart enough to understand the offensive plays but Ocho was too dumb to catch on, I can only imagine the Wonderlic scores of those two.</p>
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<p>I think the case is interesting because Hernandez was living a life millions and millions of people wish they had. Then he throws it all away. This is far more interesting than the race baiting trial of Zimmerman.</p>
<p>He’s so stupid, I’m just glad he didn’t try to walk and chew blue Bubblyicious at the same time…</p>
<p>you can take a kid out of the hood…he had it all at 23. Stupid is as stupid does</p>
<p>^^ yes razor - better stated (and more accurate) than what I said. </p>
<p>The fact is that it’s a very few individuals who can achieve that kind of $$$ by doing something that’s primarily physical (like gifted NFL athletes, though I do appreciate that you can’t be totally unintelligent to play at a higher level to some degree, per my earlier post). And to not have the understanding that you actually ARE throwing away all that money (and more), that you are so lucky to have been given the gifts to be earning, by doing horrible and stupid things… well, it’s fascinating. Unfortunately.</p>
<p>I don’t think it is that interesting aside from the fact that the accuse is a high profile football player. There is not much of any ambiguity or different angles to look at the situation. It seems (and I don’t yet know, so I could be wrong) that this is just some sort of gang related murder.</p>
<p>I was wrong about the cruise car, but again, I don’t think there were any leaks to the media before the arrest. </p>
<p>For the record, North Attleborough isn’t a “Boston area” town. It’s in Bristol County and it’s closer to Providence than it is to Boston.</p>
<p>Great, another geography lesson! If isn’t about Foxboro, it is about another town! Foxborough - Attleborough. Why I wrote earlier about Mass.</p>
<p>Rocky, perhaps this will refresh some memories:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1499114-tebow-looking-new-haven-5.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1499114-tebow-looking-new-haven-5.html</a></p>
<p>Start at post 155. Who is talking about erroneous reports based on law enforcement sources? How about post 163?</p>
<p>He’s got the big guns (no pun intended) to defend him. Jamie Sultan and Charlie Rankin are as good as it gets in criminal defence in Boston.</p>
<p>I read yesterday about some rookie with the Browns being charged with attempted murder this week and it made me think about how often this kind of thing seems to happen with NFL players. It’s kind of ironic that so many people complain about hockey being such a brutal game, yet this kind of thing never happens with hockey players, but it’s seemingly an all too frequent occurrence with football players.</p>
<p>A lot of NFL players come from a culture that makes them comfortable in situations that are one instigating “spark” away from disaster. The best thing they could do is to move away from where they grew up. But its easier said than done.</p>
<p>There is a long history of athletes from all sports self-immolating in one form or another. Car crashes (Pelle Lindbergh, Troy Archer, Gabe Rivera) drug problems, domestic violence, and personal finance stupidity and naivete (list too long and too sad to enumerate). The leagues have taken some steps to mitigate some of these problems, but they don’t seem to be all that effective.</p>
<p>“Leaks” is thrown around as if the press doesn’t go with stories without some verified source. I think they do all the time; they report erroneous things by saying “sources speculate that…” or “some in the legal community believe it might be…” etc. So one can disagree and be frustrated with over-the-top (and ad nauseum) erroneous news reports without necessarily jumping to the conclusion that the cops are all about seeing their faces on TV so they leak information to news reporters. That’s a pretty big stretch. </p>
<p>Only one news station in the Boston area got it right when all the media speculation about a Hernandez arrest for obstruction of justice was reported as “imminent” last week. They had a reporter talk to the clerk of the court in the governing jurisdiction and reported that the clerk had conveyed that no warrant of any kind had been issued or signed by the court. That is accurate reporting. The majority of the so-called journalists {in cases like this, I might qualify} act like a bunch of competitive vultures ready to run over their own mothers for the scoop. </p>
<p>Of course, as a consumer, I have no right to complain, I suppose; clearly this story fascinates me (embarrassing, look at all my posts) so I feed the vultures. So unless I turn the channel (to the one station that reported correctly, as above, which I did) or don’t buy the newspapers I think overreach (which I don’t), then it’s the first amendment at it’s finest.</p>
<p>We could go on all day about journalist integrity (likely there is another thread somewhere on CC about it already), so I’ll stop now. But it has nothing to do with cops seeking limelight.</p>