The net cost will be about the same. Raised in NYC so being in city means close to home which is nice but as a native New Yorker that will not be one of Columbia’s selling points.
Not interested in sports or Greek life.
Just want a good assessment where humanities is strongest and the most interesting students.
a wash - so pick which you like.
If you were raised in ny, get out! Go experience a different part of the country in a risk-free way. Then move back to nyc if you want.
Columbia has more really strong Humanities grad programs, but for undergrad? I would not see it really mattering.
So I’d suggest this is mostly a matter of whether you do or do not want to stay in NYC for college. My two cents would also be to suggest trying something different, but occasionally there are some people who find that they really want to get back to where they are happiest, and for them that is home. So it is a very personal issue.
That’s one way to eliminate Duke.
One concern about Columbia and I don’t know if it’s valid because I don’t know the future - but with all the activism and government actions against it and leadership turmoil, is that a cause for concern over the next five years? I don’t know.
Yesterday I saw a video where a lot of Columbia people, in protest, ripped up their diplomas.
Just something to think about…
Both are outstanding. Congrats! This is a case where two reasonable people could make two different choices.
I thought they banned Greek years ago?
Easily Columbia. Their core is one of the best, and the NYC location really does help for liberal arts. Duke’s big thing is the greek/sports, so since you don’t like it, Duke is better
No, Greek life is still thriving at Duke.
Weird, I thought that was all disbanded when they switched to residential college model…
Many of the fraternities deaffiliated with Duke during Covid when parties and rush were restricted. They never disbanded - they’re off campus though and parties are off campus.
My daughter didn’t care about sports or greek life and had a great experience at Duke. I’d say the basketball mania is definitely harder to avoid - especially in March! She ended up having a good time at a few games and bench burning events. She never cared about Greek and avoided it pretty much entirely.
Columbia has a very robust core, so make sure that’s something of interest.