Accepted And With A 1700 Sat Score!!!

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<p>Murgo doesn’t read what he/she posts.</p>

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Scores from the SAT I add very little, if anything, to the prediction of UC first-year grades once high school grades and SAT II scores are taken into account.

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<p>Grades and SAT II’s (tests that are incredibly coachable) trump the SAT, which purports to test IQ, an abstraction that supposedly predicts undergraduate success.</p>

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SAT I scores are more sensitive to students’ socioeconomic background than are SAT II scores. After controlling for socioeconomic background, the power of the SAT I to predict UC freshman grades is substantially diminished, while the predictive power of the SAT II remains strong.

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<p>The fact that SAT scores have a linear relation with income just proves that it’s a test that targets and benefits the affluent. If you take socioeconomic background the power of the SAT scores diminish. (which is bad for murgo’s argument)</p>

<p>Here’s an interesting study done by Bates College. The numbers don’t lie:</p>

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Among the findings of this 20-year study:</p>

<pre><code>* The difference in Bates graduation rates between submitters and non-submitters is 0.1% (one-tenth of one percent).

• The difference in overall GPAs at Bates is .05 (five-hundredths of a GPA point); the exact difference is 3.06 for non-submitters and 3.11 for submitters.
• Bates has almost doubled its applicant pool since making testing optional; about a third of each class at Bates enters without submitting testing in the admissions process.
• Testing is not necessary for predicting good performance; the academic ratings assigned by Bates admissions staff are highly accurate for both submitters and non-submitters in predicting GPA.
• Optional testing policies are often assumed to be a device for affirmative action efforts. Students of color use an optional testing policy at somewhat higher than average rates, and Bates has increased its enrollment of students of color and international students.** But white students using the policy outnumber students of color by 5-to-1.**
• The policy draws sharply increased application rates from all the subgroups who commonly worry about standardized testing: women, U.S. citizens of color, international citizens, low-income or blue collar students, rural students, students with learning disabilities and students with rated talents in athletics, the arts or debate.
• There are very modest differences in the majors that submitters and non-submitters choose at Bates, but some intriguing patterns: Non-submitters are more likely to major in fields that put a premium on creativity and originality.
• There are modest differences in the career outcomes of submitters and non-submitters, with one glaring exception: the four fields where students have to take another standardized test to gain entrance to graduate programs for medicine, law, an M.B.A. or Ph.D. **In fields where success does not depend on further standardized testing—including business executive officers and finance careers—submitters and non-submitters are equally represented. **
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<p>The National Association for College Admission Counseling’s (NACAC) national conference is the largest annual gathering of college admission professionals. The conference attracts more than 4,000 attendees annually, including secondary school counselors, college admission officers, independent counselors, financial aid administrators, enrollment managers and affiliate organization members.

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<p>[Bates</a> College | SAT Study: 20 Years of Optional Testing](<a href=“http://www.bates.edu/ip-optional-testing-20years.xml]Bates”>20-year Bates College study of optional SATs finds no differences | News | Bates College)</p>