ACT Score value?

<p>I’m pretty sure we don’t have anything like that… if it costs money my public school doesn’t have it. ANd I doubt any of the other schools in my county do either…</p>

<p>Yes, Naviance is expensive. If your school is not wealthy, that’s not all bad – at least for college admissions purposes. Colleges are looking for students who have succeeded against the odds. Remember, your application will be evaluated in the context of the opportunities that have been available to YOU at YOUR high school.</p>

<p>This may not be an intelligent question here, but how to you access the scattergrams on Naviance? I have an account on there, but I am not able to find the scattergrams. :)</p>

<p>For my school, it’s under the “About College” section to the right with the label “scattergrams.” You can also go to your “My Colleges” list, pick your college, and on each college profile page, there should be a “graph” option.</p>

<p>Naviance Family Connection has many tools, and schools purchase those they want. Not all of them opt for the scattergrams feature.</p>

<p>So that explains why it was not there. :(</p>

<p>When it comes to scattergram charts, I came across a different site a number of months ago: ■■■■■■■■■■■■■. I don’t recall if or what you can do without setting up an account. But once the account is set up, you can enter your profile and then plot yourself within the scattergrams for each college against admitted and rejected students stats. I assume that their data is from prior members but maybe they get their data other ways. I do not know.</p>

<p>Now that I have mentioned this site, I will describe a weird experience which makes me wonder. Anyhow, yesterday I went in and updated D’s stats to include her new ACT. Went to the Yale info and there was the scattergram. D’s yellow dot was in a very strong position on the chart. Clearly into the accepted pool with a few random rejected nearby. Seemed positive. It also assigned her a selectivity index of 992/1000. The 25% - 75% selectivity indexes assigned Yale admitted/rejected were 890 - 992 accepted and 811 - 956 rejected. More good. Then under their tools are their “Academic Matches”. I clicked on that and without their knowing of D’s college interests, Yale was their first “match”. Finally I decided to add colleges to her profile. I input all 9 schools to which she currently plans to apply - Bates, Bowdoin, BC, BU, Brandeis, MIT, RPI, WPI, Yale. Guess which was the ONLY school to which D was predicted to NOT be accepted! Yale! 40.8% chance of being admitted. Now mind you, I am not “complaining” about this prediction because I realize how competitive the whole process is, but that prediction seems in conflict with the other data especially the #1 Academic Match to Yale.</p>

<p>After that I tried a test and input every IVY plus a couple other highly selective school just for fun. The software said “accepted” for every one of them except Yale and Princeton. For Harvard they put her at a 60.2% chance of getting in. Too bad she currently has no plans to apply their. :P</p>

<p>Any experience with this site? Comments, input, etc?</p>

<p>Back to the original point - their scattergram charts are kind of cool.</p>

<p>smoda – The bottom line is, at most schools the admissions process can’t be reduced to a mathematical formula. Scattergrams can give you an idea if you’re in range with the tangibles. But after that, it’s the intangibles that make the difference, and those can’t be plotted on a graph.</p>

<p>wjb - I do not doubt that there is much more to admissions than just a number. I guess the part that surprised me was under the Academic Matches they obviosly have some algorithm that w/o input from D determined that Yale was her #1 match out of all colleges. It called it a 100% match. #2 was Harvard and #9 out of 10 was Princeton at 99%. So then for their other section to conclude that she would NOT get into Yale or Princeton but WOULD get into Harvard seemed very inconsistent. I would have expected that if she should “not get in” to a college then she should also “not match” that same college. MB I am missing something in my logic.</p>

<p>But again, I do find their scattergrams interesting.</p>

<p>smoda, I believe the data is from their own members of the site. And I actually stumbled onto MyChances as well a few months ago. However, as wjb mentioned and you acknowledged, the scattergraphs do not take in account the essays or the ECs or the recommendations, so I don’t know if they’re a completely accurate depiction. Not to mention that the some users could be simply lying about their stats for fun :P</p>

<p>However, if your D has a selectivity of 992, she must have a killer set of GPA and standardized set scores. Very impressive. :slight_smile: I predict a happy time come April 1st (and Dec. 15 if she applied to Yale SCEA!)</p>

<p>Lolz are you kidding? 33 is not on the “low side.” It’s pretty much the equivalent of a 2200 or a 2250, which is right smack int he middle.</p>

<p>For schools in my area, it’s on the low side for students who don’t have a hook. YMMV.</p>

<p>somebody - The 992 does seem too good but I can’t find anything wrong with the inputs.</p>

<p>wjb - What is YMMV? I am still trying to learn these abbreviations.</p>

<p>Your mileage may vary. :)</p>

<p>Thanks - I recognize it now. I think I asked once before.</p>