@jhmoney I don’t know of any such situations, but I am sure that there are a some anomalies that have that GPA. Depends on the school.
At my son’s school, a student could not get that high of a GPA. APs are not allowed during Freshman year, only 1-2 during Sophomore and DE is very limited.
Some of these schools, however, some students will graduate with almost enough hours for an AA degree.
@fl1234 is your son in a private school? if not what county… yes agree some schools have more AP’s… guess that goes to the point where Rank (although UF doesn’t look at rank ) is important because it compares you to your peers at the same school… also when we hear stories of kids not getting in we often compare them to kids at different schools where core GPA’s can vary because of limited classes.
I think my daughters uf gpa is over 4.8. Her school only offers honors classes. Just some electives are regular like painting. She has 9 AP classes and started dual enrollment summer after freshman year. So every semester she took 9/10 credits including summers. She only earned As in all classes. Her weighted GPA will most likely be over a 9.0 at graduation. She is 1/160.
@jhmoney Yes, he is at a private school of abut 260 kids in high school.
The UF Common Data Set says that Class Rank is “Considered”, so I do believe that they look at that, when it is provided. Otherwise, they may also look at the School Profile that the high school provides to determine where the student is in the various percentile ranges that the high school publishes in the profile.
@funfit How many college credits will your daughter have upon HS graduation? To have a GPA over 4.8, that means that over 60% of her classes through the first 3 years were college level, assuming all others were Honors. Is that right?
@fl1234 well I know she took 30 dual enrollment classes after this spring semester. Some were 4 credits due to labs or a language. Last time we talked about this she would have 109 college level credits.
Sorry… she will have 119 college credits with AP/de
@funfit My 2022 Gator needs 120 to graduate. I assume that a lot of your daughter’s credits will not count towards her major, right? That’s a crazy amount of credits for a high school student.
Why?
I know it’s crazy. She just likes learning new stuff so why not?? A lot of credits she doesn’t need but a bunch will cover gen ed classes.
GenEd should be done. Doesn’t give much time to pick a major, and then change it a couple of times. She will have to jump right into the upper level classes for her major.
Hopefully, since she took all of those classes, she will have a solid idea of what she wants to study and do career-wise.
@fl1234. Thanks for the feedback?.
@fl1234 when i say class rank. while they dont look at the rank per say it matter because if you are ranked 10th vs someone who is 30th your gpa is significantly higher… so it kind of goes hand in hand… make sense…i would rather be ranked 10 than 30
so there you have it… you have a student who has a 4.8 and took like 3 extra classes each semester (119 college credits) and is ranked #1 in their class… so that 4.7 average and above (top25%) for accepted kids at UF is for kids ranked 1-3 in their school and kill themselves… very few kids have more than 40-50 college credits… again thats the top 5% of their grade have that many… i cant imagine 25% of the accepted class has above a 4.6 . if so its right at 4.7… your daughter has a 4.8 and took a million classes lol. not sure my point here but my daughters 4.63 UF gpa and 1300 doesn’t make me feel good about her chances per say. yes just rambling and we have about 50 days left of this until D day
@funfit being #1 is lock city… if there is a lock at UF that is!
@jhmoney how do we get you a job in the uf admissions office???. I found out today 15/160 were accepted from our school last year. Some were Pace and 1 was SF/uf. Still fingers crossed. My daughter really wanted to be valictorian that’s why she worked so hard.
@funfit funny you say that… all my daughters friends and sons friends say the same thing… i should become a planner or work for the school lol. 15/160 is a pretty large percent… thats good… i think my kids school last year had 40/530 . 7.5%
@jhmoney I still think that they look at class rank, when provided, because the Common Data Set says so. Agree completely that GPA and Class Rank go hand in hand, because one is determined solely by the other… I believe that they try to back into the rank, or at least rank the kids that applied in each high school. But they cannot say that Class Rank is Important or Very Important in the CDS because a lot of schools don’t provide it.
What is your daughter’s class rank? Unless her school has really inflated grades, that 4.63 GPA should be in the top 5-7%, right? Since her SAT is in the middle 50%, and with the previous rank assumption, I would say that she has a pretty good shot. Grades/GPA are more important than SAT, I believe. The Common Data Set says so too.
@fl1234 yes 4.63 UF recalc GPA and 1300 SAT . the gpa is at the high high end of 50% mid range but the SAT is 25%… she is ranked 14/565 as of the end of Junior year… they find out the final ranking in a couple weeks… but for purpose of college applications 14/565 is what went on her apps… one of the top 6 High Schools in Palm beach County out of 23 High Schools
@jhmoney She’s in the top 3%, should have pretty good odds, I believe.
@fl1234 yes more like 2.6% lol
I hate to scare you, but I was rejected in 2017 with very similar stats. 3.7 GPA, 4.5 wGPA, 1400 SAT, 8 APs with additional dual enrollment, average/decent extracurriculars. You are in the range where anything can happen. You might be fine, just be prepared in the event that you do end up being rejected. I have a bit of advice based on my experience, so I hope this helps.
I also went to a selective high school, specifically a competitive AP/magnet in south Florida where my class rank was 80ish/300. We ended up sending about 50 people to UF, some of whom had far worse stats compared to me. I knew several people who had stats far better than mine who were also rejected, one of whom ended up getting admitted to Cornell with financial aid. I assure you I did everything right with my application, and when I called admissions following my rejection, an admissions officer told me he really didn’t know why I wasn’t accepted other than a vague “it happens.”
My problem was that I assumed I was set for UF. I didn’t have much of a backup plan, because I thought I was far in the clear. I wound up going to FSU for my freshman year and I gave it my best shot, but ended up not liking it at all since I had done no research on it as my backup. All in all, I was admitted to no schools that I actually wanted to attend since I put all my eggs in one basket.
My advice to you is to look into out of state schools that you’d like to go to which will likely give you financial aid. My little sister was accepted to UF last year with stats very similar to yours, but she had learned from my mistakes and diversified her applications so she had options. She ended up getting a full ride to a very decent liberal arts college which she fell in love with, which was genuinely a much better fit for her compared to Florida. She’s about to start her freshman spring semester. I strongly recommend you look into such schools, just in case if you haven’t already. Don’t be the kid who only applies to UF, FSU, and UCF if you’re the type who is set on UF. I came out with a very bruised ego and a commitment to a campus I’d never seen and knew nothing about.
I actually wound up transferring to UF for my sophomore year. FSU really just wasn’t what I wanted at all, and I’d been set on being a Gator my whole life. I wanted to go bigger if I was going to transfer, but at the end of the day I needed to get out of Tallahassee ASAP. I worked hard to get to 60 credits by the end of my first year and was one of UF’s few sophomore transfers. I’m now kicking butt in their biochem major - I’ve made straight A’s and I’m very involved. I’m not over-confident by any means, but top 20 medical schools are a real possibility for me. I’m on track to graduate with Latin honors, and I really believe I wouldn’t be where I am now if I’d stayed at FSU.
I don’t know where I messed up with my application, but UF was wrong about me. My point is that you’re more than an application, no matter what happens on decision day. Many students who deserve to go to UF will get rejected this year, and no matter your chances you should prepare for that. I love UF and I’m happy here, and I’ve had so many great opportunities, BUT I would have done just as well at countless other colleges if I had done my research and been prepared. Best of luck.