" that is quite the description of Binghamton. Yours not mine"
Hardly. I’ve read enough of your posts, and there’s nothing in the description that you have not stated.
" a medium sized public institution that primarily serves graduates of NY public schools, many of whom would otherwise not be able to attend college."
Seriously, not otherwise be able to attend college? Not sure how to even respond to that one.
"That hardly qualifies as “self selection”.
Self-selection is that students who see a school’s admission standards and realize that they do not have a reasonable chance of being admitted do not even apply. I know many students who applied to SUNY schools but did not apply to Binghamton (or Geneseo for that matter) because they recognize that their grades and SAT/ACT scores are too low. I also know 10 or 12 students who have applied and been admitted to Binghamton this year. They are all very strong students- SAT’s from the 1200’s to the 1400’s, at least top 10-15% of their class. Some have already submitted their deposits to Binghamton, others are weighing financial aid offers from other schools.
“I don’t think many people think that Binghamton is “one of the best universities in the country”. Those who do should spend some time at the flagship universities. They are a world apart from Binghamton. Binghamton is a solid university but it is not Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Gainesville, and on.”
I noticed that you left out the word “public” in quoting me. You may not think it belongs on lists of top public universities, but it is. As far, as out-of-state “flagships” their student profile is quite similar to Binghamton’s. They may have access to resources that Binghamton and other SUNY’s don’t, but given their out-of-state tuition rates they’re not affordable options for many New York State families.
“I doubt that the Advantage program is filled with many students with a 26 (roughly equal to an SAT of 1190).”
Here’s a link to an article where not only Binghamton officials but the President of Broome CC state otherwise: http://www.bupipedream.com/news/9061/binghamton-advantage/. Do you have any evidence that what they state is false?
Incidentally, it’s not only Binghamton who is offering deferred admission/ guaranteed transfer admission. Here’s a link to a NY Times article that interestingly quotes a Geneseo official discussing the beneficial effects of Geneseo’s delayed admissions policy on the school’s student profile: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/11/education/11accept.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&ref=education.