<p>CF, that’s probably true unless I was dealing with something pretty gnarly.</p>
<p>I dont know what I am doing but I think after finding the hospital link that Stanford is in my plan.</p>
<p>Bclintonk, like your post.</p>
<p>Hope they are also in my plan.</p>
<p>Bclintonk, I see where you are coming from, but I hate allowing people to latch on to the victim mentality syndrome instead of taking responsibility for their actions. I know I didn’t raise my kid to think this way.</p>
<p>Same. Blame the parents if we must assign blame. But hamburger victims?
Just No.</p>
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<p>To a first approximation, if you once become obese-- and that can happen when you are a child-- you cannot stop being obese without surgery. It’s not like quitting smoking, where a huge percentage of former smokers are now ex-smokers. Almost no former obese people are now normal weight. What’s the percentage of people who were at one time obese, and now have been normal weight for two years? 1%? 2%? Why are we blaming people for not doing something that almost no one can do?</p>
<p>I suspect many of us know former fat people. Weight Watchers meetings are full of them. I personally know a couple. No, I don’t have data.</p>
<p>Somehow people in other first world countries with all the food temptations we have manage to be normal weight. </p>
<p>You can’t just say people are victims who can do nothing to improve their own health, that they aren’t responsible…</p>
<p>dstark, I don’t think the Stanford website is referring to the new PPO networks for 2014. I think these are the plans they will accept in 2013.</p>
<p>I think the only way to know is to look it up on the Anthem website using their provider locator for a 2014 plan. I think Calmom said this information for Anthem is not yet available.</p>
<p>This is a little silly. The real problem is the numbers paying nothing added into the system. Of course, those paying will have to pay more. It’s math.</p>
<p>Go to the grocery store. Pick up a box of oatmeal, you know that kind that is advertised as convenient and easy to prepare in the go. Read ingredients. Tht fruit yogurt in your cart, healthy because it is Greek, right. not so fast. Do the same with everything in your cart that isn’t grown on a tree or in the ground. Even animals are pumped up with antibiotics and growth hormones. </p>
<p>Watch for things like high fructose corn sugar. Realize babies not nursed are drinking it in their formula. It is often in your sliced bread, and even if you are eating wheat bread, it may have sweetener in it. Prepared pasta sauce, salad dressing, you name it. We are eating sweeteners everywhere. Even unintentionally. You may think you are eating okay, but then you grasp how much we crave sweet, mostly because it is everywhere in our diet. </p>
<p>Sure it is easy to say, eat healthier. Put down the soda. Eating healthier takes time, not just to shop but realize how many forces are against you when you do. </p>
<p>When I was a kid, we ate dinner out a handful of times. It was a treat. My mom believed in Crisco to cook her fried chicken, and we ate bacon. While we ate at home every night. It was things like canned veggies which I find appallingly disgusting, now. We drank hose water outside after playing all day. We did not drink as much soda. We ate wonder bread and even things like bologna. I don’t know if we were healthier, and we ate a lot of processed food. Still, it was rare to see kids who were fat. </p>
<p>I like poetgirl’s suggestion about intermittent fasting. I think this is a great idea. I wonder if it helps reset our cravings for sweet or salty food, too?</p>
<p>GP…Says … 2013 and 2014. </p>
<p>I will verify when Anthem lists its providers.</p>
<p>It goes to what a reasonable expectation is. Is it a reasonable expectation for people to do what so many have tried and failed, repeatedly, to do?</p>
<p>If 98% (or whatever the number is-- it’s overwhelmingly big) can’t do something even when they have tried to do it repeatedly, is it right to punish them and preen yourself on your brilliant choice of parents?</p>
<p>That is because they went outside to play. Now they play video games. Kids can eat a ton and not get fat. Feeding my son cost a fortune. Pizza and chicken nuggets were staples. Five more hamburgers, mom. Not fat. But he rode his bike and played outside. Well, along with video games.</p>
<p>Also, if nothing is ever anyone’s fault, it’s no wonder we have so many problems.</p>
<p>In Europe, it’s really easy to spot the Americans. The Americans are the fat ones. European restaurants serve much smaller portions. Europeans walk much more than we do. They bicycle more. In Germany, you even see older people bicyling. So despite the gelatos, the beer, the strudel, the cream, the pasta, they are still thinner than we are overall.</p>
<p>I gave up chocolate for a year and my cravings went away, but I am only here for a very short period of time. I am just temporary and I like chocolate and my weight is good so screw it. :)</p>
<p>okay, I missed that. My question is the PPO networks they are citing the grandfather legacy networks and/or the narrow 2014 networks for ACA-compliant plans?</p>
<p>Of course, come to think of it, Europeans also smoke a lot more than we do. Maybe that has something to do with the difference. We may have traded one set of diseases from smoking for another set due to obesity.</p>
<p>GP…Dont know…</p>